SE, Please increase primal drops or add Token System

[Rythless]

I am literally 0/72 on Ifrit's Bow. I have seen one drop in all those times, on my 25th run and I lost the roll to someone doing their first run ever, who also died 5 times during the fight to charge.

I got an Axe though, geared my WAR and now I am half-way done with the WAR relic quest.

[Ashgarth]

I'm adding to the "don't listen to these people SE" front. Don't give in to the instant gratification crowd.

I'd accept a token system if it took 30+ runs to get the weapon.

Me and my 56 tries to get my Ifrit weapon say hello.

How exactly is that "instant Gratification"?

[Raim]

I feel like all modern MMOs should adopt a currency/token system, at least for endgame items. Its not fair at all for someone to run a dungeon once and get everything they want, and at the same time other people may have to run it dozens of time and never get what they want. Theres no need for RNG in MMOs when it comes to endgame gearing.

Now you may be asking, "Well wouldn't that just remove the grind from the game and end up having everyone bored quicker?" in which case I propose that you simply make the token reward a low amount so that there is still a grind involved, but not randomness. For example, making it so that you still have to defeat Ifrit 30-40 times to get the gear you want from tokens. Its a fixed amount for everyone, and still a grind. You feel like you're actually making progress, and you don't get taunted by people around you being lucky. Effort should always be equally rewarded.

[Cegiana]

1st off this is not 1.0, so stop trying to talk about it.

First off, 1.0 didn't have the battle, it came later on. Secondly, you don't have to be a dick in your response. Like it or not, this game is a continuation of 1.23 and there will be comparisons to it. DEAL WITH IT!

[Laume]

Question for you all that say no to this. How would it affect your game play if they had a token system? How does it change your gaming experience how someone else got their primal weapon?

So far the "instant gratification" chant is hasn't been much more than a straw man argument and a mantra. Especially because the original token system was slow. It took 10 tokens. Tokens dropped probably once per 3 fights on average for me. That's 30 fights. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that's "instant".

Here, let me take the other side on this. I say, sure, let's get rid of the token system. All of them. Let's get rid of the allahgan tomestone systems. All relic from Rowena NPC's should be random drops from dungeons. If you'll agree to that, I'll agree that token system for primals aren't needed. Those of you that have allahgan tomestones, waste them and throw the items that you got from then out now. All darklights, all wyrm/healer/paladin/etc gear. All of it. Let's go. Chop chop.

[Laume]

no takers?

[Yukiko]

They have not added Tokens in 1.x for no reason!
Hell, even they tryed a new dropdesign with skirmish...
What I wonder most is the missing explanation why in hell they gone back to the stupid old same RNG we had in 1.x?

Well on the other hand there are a lot of players who are upset about the trade in of old tokens. You cant buy weapons any more? You have garuda tokens but they are giving same ammount of stones as those from ifrit? WTF...

Seriously SE, I hope its just for balancing reasons you have not added to buy weapons yet...

[texhnolyze]

Why? so you can get your weapon,t hen start a thread in a week called "i'm bored there's nothing to do i'm quitting"?

The fun isn't "hey look at my weapon", it's partying and working together at a chance, then when you get it, you feel like you earned a reward. I'm tired of this "everyone gets a trophy" mentality.

it's been a week and i still haven't get my lance
but i'll have to agree with you
just take it easy, it's not like the game is going to be down tomorrow

[Riion]

I've run Ifrit too many times and have only saw a sword drop once. Unfortunately, I lost the roll. I really don't even feel like playing the game anymore knowing that it'll be another 50 times before I see it again and I may very well lose the roll on that one too.

[Keyln]

Only in an MMO can people do the same thing 50 times in a row, get nothing to show for it, and call it good design.

In the real world, this might be considered obsessive compulsive.

Oi vey...