SE, Please increase primal drops or add Token System

[KimimiAvesta]

At least have the weapon drop be only for those jobs in the party.

Seems like a completely reasonable request, doesn't it? I've won Garuda HM about seven times now, and at least three of those dropped weapons that nobody in the party wanted. That's not challenging, that's a waste of time.*

*Not asking for first time insta-drop for everyone by the way, but at least *someone* in the group should come away from a victory with what they went in for.

[EdwinLi]

Seems like a completely reasonable request, doesn't it? I've won Garuda HM about seven times now, and at least three of those dropped weapons that nobody in the party wanted. That's not challenging, that's a waste of time.*

*Not asking for first time insta-drop for everyone by the way, but at least *someone* in the group should come away from a victory with what they went in for.

Ya that the reason why Primal HM is annoying right now. A person can still get their 300 Mythology within a week just by running HM primal but only if they run it every single day of the week constantly.

The drop rate is annoying because the weapon that drops may still be a weapon no one needs because no one in the group is playing the job for that weapon.

The primal HM runs for that single Primal weapon people want is basically like Russian Roulette but this time only 1 ammo slot is not loaded and all the other ammo slots is loaded.

Also I think they should add some kind of token system to go with the current random drop 1 random primal weapon. Reward for Victory over Primal can be 1 Random primal Weapon and 1 "Primal" Token based on the Primal you defeated.

Have the token be used more than getting Primal weapons for people with bad luck such as tokens can be traded for Primal Themed Armor sets ( A lot of people would love to have a Primal Themed Armor set as their Vanity or for collecting), mini-pets (everyone would love a mini-Ifrit pet), and craft items for Primal themed crafts (crafting is popular for profit but they need to bring in some fun stuff to craft) so people will come back to Primal HM other than for their weapon and Relic quests.

People simply just get their Primal Weapon then up and leaves and never come back until they need it for their Relic. Hardly any incentive to stay and help people get their own Primal weapon even when the group has 2 of the same Jobs competing for that 1 primal weapon.

[Kraggy]

People simply just get their Primal Weapon then up and leaves and never come back until they need it for their Relic. Hardly any incentive to stay and help people get their own Primal weapon even when the group has 2 of the same Jobs competing for that 1 primal weapon.

This of course is the fatal flaw in the 'winner takes all' method of gear acquisition, as seen endlessly in XI and umpteen other games where the RNG determines who wins and who loses.

And to those who prattle on about "earning" this gear, YOU didn't 'earn' YOUR TEAM did and you simply won the RNG lottery, YOU getting the weapon you need means they got nothing for getting it FOR YOU! This type of loot distribution appeals to the 'me, me, me' segment of players, it's entirely anti-social.

[Minibiskit]

Spamming a primal fight in hopes to get their weapon is complete waste of time. The reward for your time is too little compared to other places you could spend it. A token system would go along way to making these fights bearable.

[Reika]

I could have swore during beta they were going to have a token system for this primals...

[Neasa]

I could have swore during beta they were going to have a token system for this primals...

Among other things... But that's for another topic.

The best thing people can do is make a dedicated farming group... Using duty finder, or even recruiting random people on your server tends to end with bad results.
I got stuck using the HQ relic-to-be bow on my way to relic, as Ifrit and Garuda refused to give me a drop, and I hated holding people back due to bad luck.

[Mihana]

So wait, does only ONE weapon drop now per win which must be decided upon between 8 players, or 8 weapons just at a random chance that someone actually wants the weapon? I haven't fought any of the Hard Mode Primals yet but if they're seriously 1 per win having a random chance of getting it divided by 8 people then I'm not interested. Last thing I need is to do this in a DF group and have the weapon I want drop, but someone who decides just to be a troll rolls and obtains it instead...

[Theref]

I just hope they could at least make the RNG a bit smarter,
*Ifrit Dead*
*A random weapon that none in the party uses*
*Pass**Pass**Pass**Pass**Pass**Pass**Pass**Pass*

Waste of time. Oh btw it took 31 ifrit runs for me to get my Lance, and around 11 garuda runs for lance.

[YeaniNah]

So im part of the lucky people ..cos me i got my Ifrit bow after 2 ifrit kill in 2 days

Edit : PS : for those who don't know. If your the only Job in the party and the weapon drop. that mean you can need and other cant. So you have a 100 chance to have it

[Gurpsmeister]

Sorry, I've now run ifrit over 50 times, seen the WHM cane ONCE and it went to the other guy. Token system needed, this kind of loot system does nothing for anyone.