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    Player
    NadienKirisame's Avatar
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    Nadien Kirisame
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by TrystWildkey View Post
    You guys saw this in 1.0 as an issue and started the token system, so obviously you understand that it's viable and wanted.
    The reason it was put into 1.0 was because there was a chance that not only you but no one at all for a number of run would get anything more then some dark matter. Now that a weapon will always drop even if it is not the one you need or want there is a much better chance then in the 1.0 version to get the weapon you are after.

    I have seen pretty much every Ifrit weapon drop at least once... Though I'm still going to try and build a house out of canes >.>

    The cat is bemused =-.-=
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    Chiruru53's Avatar
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    Escaped Retainer
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 51
    At least give us 1 Casket, added with a 15% chance of obtaining a random weapon into your inventory after completion, SOMETHING. This isn't skill, or effort, this isn't work, it's boring tedious BS that we need to do fights we can all do with our eyes closed. These aren't amazing endgame weapons, so cut that crap out. These are weapons we need to get started on better ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aysen View Post
    I ran Molten Core for over a year without seeing Felheart Robes drop once. Had to grab it in a random run years later. It was sweet when I finally got it. Please don't complain about spamable Ifrit kills that get you mythostones in the process. Show some determination and resolve and let your strength of character shine through. The moment you get that weapon will be all the more satisfying and something you can be proud of.

    I'm in the same boat with the Garuda weapon but I'm not asking SE to change anything. It's fine as is IMO.
    That sounds all well and good on paper, but yeah, strength of character and resolve won't get me into a HM Titan group for my relic. People... generally look at Crafted weapons with distaste....

    Quote Originally Posted by Lux_Rayna View Post
    I don't understand any of this. For one, why are any of you spamming primals for weapons? Its like spamming the slot machine for money. You are better off getting your weapon somewhere else.

    Gc gear weapons do everything you need. Weapons from ak do the same. Hq crafted weapons work as well. If gear progression is your goal then primals are the least effective way to do it.

    Tokens aren't necessary because primal weapons aren't necessary. If you insist anyway "just because" then the rng grind is fair. You deal with it.
    AK drops weapons? since when? I have never seen one? O.o You really think I wanna run Titan HM with a GC weapon, or run with anyone with a GC weapon? Or are you one of the people who queue for it in full AF and the like? I personally am staying away from AK and titan til I have a decent weapon, to avoid being a possible detriment to any party I may join. lol, they don't do "everything you need"
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    Last edited by Chiruru53; 09-26-2013 at 10:24 AM.

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    Nictuswolf's Avatar
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    Naomi Fordragon
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Everytime Garuda drops a book I am not in the group.

    Everytime she DOES drop a book, it's SMN.....

    Scumbag Garuda!
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    Denzel Taru
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 51
    Quote Originally Posted by Nictuswolf View Post
    Everytime Garuda drops a book I am not in the group.

    Everytime she DOES drop a book, it's SMN.....

    Scumbag Garuda!
    i have this same problem with ifrit.. seen the SMN book about 3 times but never the SCH and I just KNOW the one time i do see the SCH book it will be in a random DF group with a second SCH and i will roll a 1 lol..

    I don't think it needs a token system but i do think they need to look at drop % and chance.. cos I have ran ifrit 27 times so far and have seen 10 MNK claws and about 8 BLM cudgels.. 1 PLD sword, 1 MRD axe.. etc.. so it doesnt seem right
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    Last edited by DenzelTaru; 09-26-2013 at 06:19 PM. Reason: wrote "MRD sword" cos i typed fast lol

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    Melfina Amastacia
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by DenzelTaru View Post
    i have this same problem with ifrit.. seen the SMN book about 3 times but never the SCH and I just KNOW the one time i do see the SCH book it will be in a random DF group with a second SCH and i will roll a 1 lol..

    I don't think it needs a token system but i do think they need to look at drop % and chance.. cos I have ran ifrit 27 times so far and have seen 10 MNK claws and about 8 BLM cudgels.. 1 PLD sword, 1 MRD axe.. etc.. so it doesnt seem right
    That's why it's called RNG. If you had gotten it on your first 5 runs you'd say it's working perfect, but it's the same system and that has happened to plenty of people. Every weapon has the same chance to drop as every other weapon, you have to look at the other 7 people in those 27 runs and see what they got in all their other runs. Could be the books drop all the time for them, but not the ones they want.
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    Demlix Layze
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Random drops suck. I've run Ifrit and Garuda on my BLM and SCH plenty of times, and haven't seen either weapon drop.

    I'm not saying I should have had one by now, but not knowing when it might drop + win roll, is very frustrating. I'm also not saying that I think it should be just as easy to obtain as DL gear.

    I do think there should be a token system in place, where you slowly work towards a weapon by running primals over and over. After you've put in enough time and successfully completed the primals enough times to earn enough tokens, you can be rewarded with a weapon. Players should have something to work towards, and not just told to have faith in a random number generator.
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    Hanemakikaze's Avatar
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    Hanemakikaze Shadowmourne
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    Faerie
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I find it pretty boring literally 90% of the good endgame gear is token grind fest based in the easiest snorefest zones that give hardly any reward aside from tombstones, mobs drop 1 gil. I also find the grind fest of primals boring, what do?
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    Dano's Avatar
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    Danorille Pandemonium
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    Tonberry
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    Blacksmith Lv 61
    SE is best at delaying player progression
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    Jilse Wynden
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    Balmung
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Dano View Post
    SE is best at delaying player progression
    It suppose to take a while. How else are they going to keep people until the next expansion. Not everyone is content with leveling every class to 50.
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Blacksmith Lv 90
    At least have the weapon drop be only for those jobs in the party.
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