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  1. #41
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    Also its key to remember why mind is so important for scholar.

    As arcanist, we get no bonus to mind, unlike conjurers. So we are already down 30 mind from passives, just because arcanist is marked as dps so it gains instead 30 int.

    So dumping all your stats into mind only puts you on par with a baseline 0 mind white mage.

    Just some food for thought.
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    Caly Umbra
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    You have to make a choice, it makes the decision much more meaningful. I kind of like it actually.

    Besides 10,000 seals isn't that much.
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    Last edited by Calypsx; 09-26-2013 at 08:58 PM.

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    Jayded Phoenixfire
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    you wouldn't notice the difference from the 30 points
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayded View Post
    you wouldn't notice the difference from the 30 points
    That is like saying you wouldn't notice the difference between AK and Darklight gear, or between AF2 and Darklight.

    If 30 mind is not worth having, then why do people even care at all about their darklight/AF2/allagan upgrades?

    Try it.
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    You have to make a choice, it makes the decision much more meaningful. I kind of like it actually.
    I think it's a bit inconsequent, because of the way characters work in this game. If they wanted to make the choice of class more meaningful, perhaps they should not allow to learn all classes on one character. Their concept basically says: the choice of class doesn't mean anything, only here they make an exception.
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    I agree that they need to split it. If this game was alt friendly even in the slightest, I probably wouldn't mind it how it is. Though as of right now there is no way in hell you'd get me to level a second char/go through the entire story/level up all the same old base classes again just to be able to switch between SCH and SMN on the fly. I'd rather they had just made them two completely separate classes at this point, and I fear for future job splits.

    There are a lot of people out there (myself included) who prefer to play a dps version of a class, but is more useful as a healer/tank (or vice versa) and will gladly play those roles while raiding or running dungeons with guildies. However, they will want to then play the role they prefer to play while solo, simply for the fact that that is more fun for them. That should not be penalized. This is a game that you're meant to have fun playing, so having a mechanic that blocks having fun for absolutely no real reason makes zero sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Piety is useless for every single class.
    actually it's the most useful materia meld slots for BLM if you already capped your accuracy. You cannot meld int, vit crit because of stat cap. piety = more fire casts




    and for the topic


    sure they can have different stat allocations provided that you will level them separately as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calypsx View Post
    You have to make a choice, it makes the decision much more meaningful. I kind of like it actually.
    In a game that was more "hardcore" and making "meaningful" decisions was the norm, I'd agree, but in this game, where you don't even have to make a meaningful decision on which class to play, it doesn't fit and just looks like they came up with a system that was poorly thought out and fails to accommodate edge cases like summoner/scholar.
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astralis View Post
    sure they can have different stat allocations provided that you will level them separately as well
    Can you elaborate on that, please? How can you level them separately, if both use the Arcanist's lvl? Or are you suggesting two characters?
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    Well because it is unfair if both classes have different stat allocation wherein you only need to level the other one and the other one gets to 30 as well.
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