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  1. #21
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    Iroukan's Avatar
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    Strade Levent
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Piety is useless for every single class.
    SCH can go out of mana pretty fast you know?
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  2. #22
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    Iroukan's Avatar
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    Strade Levent
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    Excalibur
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Persononally I will try go 15 mind and 15 int
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  3. #23
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iroukan View Post
    SCH can go out of mana pretty fast you know?
    A scholar should never have mana problems.

    Scholars have aetherflow, which with your close to 5k mana pools (while in a party, which btw you bring piety bonus to the group), gives you 1k a minute, NOT including your laser (I always forget the name of this), which nets you nearly 300mp a shot, if you don't need your flows for healing/sacred soil.

    PS, losing the 30 MIND and putting that into PIETY will almost guaranteed cause you to actually -lose- mana from the lowered efficiency of your heals.
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  4. #24
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    SlopOrion's Avatar
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    Slop Orion
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    Ultros
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Personally I think that some of these classes need a stat allocation revamp tbh. Monk should be DEX based (why there is only one Job that uses DEX as a main stat is beyond me) and either Scholar should be INT based or Summoner should be MND based. From the perspective of Arcanist, seeing as the class is based on thinking, INT makes more sense for both Scholar and Summoner.

    I think if Scholar got an ability that caused heals to be based off INT it would fix the entire job (not that it's broken, but when the main class has INT stat boosts for its traits, it kinda sucks). The good part is, that Scholars could just use BLM gear (especially since it has a lot of crit on it).
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  5. #25
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    Fealow's Avatar
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    Fealow Vita
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by goodr View Post
    Cleric Stance is not an answer because it is only usable on SCH to allow you to slightly improve your dps. It hurts your healing. This might be more useful on SMN, but is not available.
    Slightly improve? So swapping MND for INT and getting a 10% damage boost is a slight difference in dps? If I have for example 300 MND and only 200 INT that's not exactly a "slight" difference in my potential damage output is it?

    As a lv 34 wht mge I'm able to out dmg my dps party members using stone II and cleric stance. Didn't mean to personally call you out and attack you, but "slight" is quite the understatement in this case.
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    Last edited by Fealow; 09-21-2013 at 01:53 PM.

  6. #26
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    Ragingfungus's Avatar
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    Raging Fungus
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    Leviathan
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Eckoh View Post
    its been said by Yoshi it is that way on purpose to make you choose.
    This makes no sense though. Why should I be able to play a whm and blm but not a smn and sch?
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  7. #27
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    Vagrant-0's Avatar
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    Valado Vulado
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    Lamia
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Based on much of what I'm seeing and hearing, I think that regardless of role, you're simply best off just putting your stat points into mind unless you plan on being solely focused on damage.

    As a Summoner, this means that you don't get that extra bit of damage, but instead can heal both your pet and other party members better... Keeping with general versatility of the class. As most of your damage comes from pet and DoT, spreading a Physic now and then isn't lowering your dps much and helps the whitemage preserve their mana better.

    As a Scholar, this means better healing out of cleric stance so that if you are in a primary healing role your heals (and damage soak effect) is higher, and in cleric stance your damage is high enough to compete with dps classes while still being able to function as a secondary healer role and utilize your pet.
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  8. #28
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    Ardan Lauriers
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragingfungus View Post
    This makes no sense though. Why should I be able to play a whm and blm but not a smn and sch?
    WHM and BLM come from two classes that play entirely different. SMN and SCH are the only jobs at this point that come from the same class that branch off in two directions: healing and dps. Attribute points aren't being put into SMN or SCH, but ACN since that's actually what you're leveling. Personally, I dumped all my points into INT and I play both classes and I haven't had any trouble healing on SCH whatsoever. In my opinion, attribute points all boils down to preference.
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  9. #29
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    Rumpelstiltzkin's Avatar
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    Bel Rumpelstiltzkin
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    No thanks, I like that you have to choose.
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  10. #30
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    Crescent_Dusk's Avatar
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Just reduce the seal cost. It's too prohibitive. 3k should be closer.

    Since you can only carry one of the item you'd have to go to your home company every time you want to switch.
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