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  1. #11
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    Yamo's Avatar
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    Jack Burton
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    Ultros
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    Arcanist Lv 38
    by Yoshi P logic a shoe maker would make a better family doctor than a heart surgeon. wouldnt it make more sense that a summoner would make a better scholar (since they come from the same school of study) than a totally different class would? This gotta be the most retarded multiclass system ever invented. Yoshi here is some advice, go buy a D&D very old rule book and learn something.
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    Shurelia Chan
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    It's likely intended to be this way to facilitate the usage of the 10k seal respec books. Look at this way, perhaps future jobs will be similar to SMN/SCH in the aspect that they'll be different roles (e.g. Monk being the DPS archtype for Pugilist that focuses on STR, while Ninja could be the tank archtype that focuses on DEX) so SE wants the seals to effectively be your respec cost.
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    Nibb Omniseer
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    Leviathan
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    It's supposed to be this way, more classes with get jobs like arcanist in the future.
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  4. #14
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    N'aivir Alexaire
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Just use the point reset items whenever u want to play the other job. Seals are easy as hell to get now.
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  5. #15
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    Freya Scathlain
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Summoners could have a Cleric Stance that merely switches INT and MND without the damage and healing percentage changes. That would simplify the issue for everyone, and would be in line with the mentality of the armory system in the first place. It should be an early level Arcanist skill.

    You could call it "Arcane Stance" or maybe "Primal Stance."

    For me it'd be great. I often queue for the Duty Finder as a healer for the express purpose of lowering my wait time. Sans this change, I'll have no choice other than to level White Mage. For now that'll be what I do, but it's a shame to have to do with that while still leveling.
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    Freya Scathlain
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Seals are easy to get? How much time does the average player really want to spend farming seals to reset stats when they could instead be doing something more productive with their time?
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  7. #17
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Insidion View Post
    Seals are easy to get? How much time does the average player really want to spend farming seals to reset stats when they could instead be doing something more productive with their time?
    Kinda yes and no with this, at 200 a FATE (assuming you want to be productive, leveling a 40+ character), 1 fate every 3 minutes, it takes 2 and a half hours.

    If you have a lower character, between 3 and 6 hours.

    So yea, its kinda crappy, but its not SO bad that you can't do it say, like every other day.

    Certainly too terrible to swap every dungeon, which is why I really also want different stat allocations.

    Or, like someone suggested, Scholar Stance for scholars which swaps int with mind.

    Or, like I want, to just do away with stats because noone will ever so anything other than their primary stat, or if they do, they are making a mistake.
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  8. #18
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    Eara Weaver
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    30 stat points are not game breaking. You can do either job fine without them on 99% on content. If its that big of a deal just go 15/15, you would barely notice a difference.
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  9. #19
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    Nyne Helios
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 80
    wait.. why can't you just dump everything into MND and use cleric stance for SMN? Can you not equip it as SMN?

    edit: nvm. I missed the post on the first page saying that CS was not available for SMN.
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    Last edited by NyneAlexander; 09-21-2013 at 01:12 AM.

  10. #20
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
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    Sage Lv 100
    I dumped all 30 points into INT for SMN, but I haven't ever had issues healing as SCH. As stated before, 30 points isn't gamebreaking.

    Statwise, if you use both jobs, I would suggest INT. Investing in INT only helps burn enemies faster, however you may be wasting MND completely if you over-heal to begin with. You can't really over-DPS.
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    Last edited by Darkstride; 09-21-2013 at 02:06 AM.

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