Please allow SMN/SCH separate stat allocations!

[IveraIvalice]

yes omg i have been wanting to make a thread about this. its really annoying to have their stats shared. sometimes i really dont understand the decisions they make.
one of the main selling points of this game and for me is that your able to do everything and be everything on one character, this is the only system in the game that locks you out of something. and since scholar and smn are 2 complete opposites, theres no way to be a good scholar without being a gimped smn. it just doesnt make sense with the design of their own game.
the only real way to be both is to make another character and thats not right, thats not what the games about or else they wouldnt have put so much effort into the armoury system.
im sure this doesnt affect everyone because not everyone wants to be both a scholar and a smn but when they start adding other jobs that are complete oppposites there will be more people seeing the problem in it. they already hinted at the possibility of dark knight branching off of gladiator.

[goodr]

Cleric Stance is not an answer because it is only usable on SCH to allow you to slightly improve your dps. It hurts your healing. This might be more useful on SMN, but is not available.

[Fealow]

Cleric Stance is not an answer because it is only usable on SCH to allow you to slightly improve your dps. It hurts your healing. This might be more useful on SMN, but is not available.

Slightly improve? So swapping MND for INT and getting a 10% damage boost is a slight difference in dps? If I have for example 300 MND and only 200 INT that's not exactly a "slight" difference in my potential damage output is it?

As a lv 34 wht mge I'm able to out dmg my dps party members using stone II and cleric stance. Didn't mean to personally call you out and attack you, but "slight" is quite the understatement in this case.

[Vagrant-0]

Based on much of what I'm seeing and hearing, I think that regardless of role, you're simply best off just putting your stat points into mind unless you plan on being solely focused on damage.

As a Summoner, this means that you don't get that extra bit of damage, but instead can heal both your pet and other party members better... Keeping with general versatility of the class. As most of your damage comes from pet and DoT, spreading a Physic now and then isn't lowering your dps much and helps the whitemage preserve their mana better.

As a Scholar, this means better healing out of cleric stance so that if you are in a primary healing role your heals (and damage soak effect) is higher, and in cleric stance your damage is high enough to compete with dps classes while still being able to function as a secondary healer role and utilize your pet.

[Fyreus]

Cleric Stance is not an answer because it is only usable on SCH to allow you to slightly improve your dps. It hurts your healing. This might be more useful on SMN, but is not available.

Try not to forget that you can swap out of that stance VERY quickly and go right into curing afterwards (i hate seeing healers stuck in that stance healin unless i'm taking light damage) with 0 problems.

[HamHam]

There's an item that resetted your stats in 1.0... I don't remember the name of it right now because I'm at work and most games sites are blocked. (this one seems to have passed their firewall). I think the name was The Keeper's Hymn? But this item can reset your stats. Now, I'm not sure if it is available in ARR.

[pandabearcat]

It is, but at 10k seals, its not exactly usable if you say, want to do stuff as summoner while queueing as a scholar, and swapping every hour, or even every day.

Iirc the best fates give 250 seals (I think the best leves give 200 or so), so it will take you at least 40 FATEs, which is like 2 extremely mindnumbing hours if you want to go that way.

[CoolsTorrey]

seems going all out INT or MND isnt really ideal for sch/smn

seems like a balance between INT MND and PIE would be best.

i will be playing more summoner heavy so i would go 15 INT 10 mnd, 5 PIE.

If i were going more scholar heavy i would go 10 INT, 15 MND, 5 PIE

if you NEVER plan on healing as a sch or NEVER DPS'ing as summoner. then obviously you would forget the INT or MND. This class isnt a BLM, nor a WHM. So why would you build like them? This is just my opinion, hope i don't come across as an arrogant dickhead

[pandabearcat]

Piety is useless for every single class.

[Iroukan]

Piety is useless for every single class.

SCH can go out of mana pretty fast you know?