Square take advantage of your amazing world you created for endgame!

[Hostar]

Pretty much taking a break already until some new content comes around.

Playing about 3-4 hours a night solid for a month, bit more on weekends:
- WHM 50. ALC50. THM26. ACN20. BTN20.
- Almost full Darklight gear on my WHM and Relic weapon.
- Cleared all my hunting logs and Grand Company logs.
- Farmed my 300 tokens each week from AK.
- Helped all my friends progress in their Relic quest.

So what am I left with? Grind dungeons and FATEs to level up additional classes, enjoy some brainless gathering or level up another crafting profession. None of those are "content" in my opinion. FATE grinding is the worst of them all though, you don't actually play the game. It just becomes sitting in a town then venturing out for 30 seconds of key presses

Why recreate such a fantastic game and then push it out the door with minimal content then try to play catchup?

I dread to think how fast people with 6, 8 or even 10 hour a day playtime schedules burned through everything.

[Wiggles]

They should really take note with How BLizzard handled the ridicule of Diablo 3's "endgame" (yes its not an mmo but it still has an end-game).

They added 100 "Paragon levels" which offer small stat boosts and increases in magic find and gold find, and they added 10 levels of monster power for added difficulty but also adde rewards.

Give us something fun to grind towards. I love grinding if the games fun (which it is) and the cause is worthy, and theres enough variety. What we lack is the cause and variety. Give us extra levels similar to paragon, or think something new up! THink up some cool ideas to have lvl 50's go back into the world do do "stuff" to progress! Whatever you do, make sure you announce it early, Im sure there are quite a few already geared to leave when subs kick in, give them some incentive to stay!

[Rewyen]

Here is the problem...
You all got excited, zoomed to 50 and did everything you could to make sure you had all the elite crap as fast as possible.

Why?
It was pretty clear that you'd be getting new content every few months or so, so what was the point in blazing through? I mean, when 2.1 is released, will you do it again? Just mow through the new content until you are left with the same issue you have now? Take a breather, guys. The game just launched. All this exciting stuff you wish the game had will make its way here eventually and then some. Stop comparing it to other games endgame setups. None of them launched with a complete endgame. Not even the precious WoW, which was boring after about five days in the Vanilla days and never allowed for the amount of activities you can do with this game outside of dungeons and PvP content. All the fun stuff is still being worked on and will eventually be implemented. Also, SE announced they have over a million active subscriptions... Pretty sure no one is going anywhere and those who do? I doubt anyone will notice.

[Hostar]

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I personally didn't zoom to 50, I made it last as long as I could. I have no real enthusiasm to grind fates, grind the same 2 dungeons or level up more crafting professions. If SE thought those things would sustain people until Christmas (pretty much the estimated date of 2.1 going on what they've said) then they got a real eye-opener coming when sub day hits.

Also, it's all well and good SE posting active subscriptions while people still got 10 days on their free month but more of a PR stunt than any stable numbers.

Sure WoW and other MMOs launched with nothing but sorry to say it's not 2004 anymore. Hugely bugged contentless games don't fly with the community anymore and you can ask SWTOR or GW2 how they're doing now by attempting that philosophy. WoW was also first of its kind (first real quest MMO) and had an amazing world. You were inspired to level up multiple characters. Can you say the same for FATE grinding?

I don't mind, i'm sure the good stuff will come. It's just as I said: break time and not subbing for now until it does.

[Snorgrind]

pvp! that's all the challenge you will ever need

pvp will be totaly broken if they release it with the delay/latency issues ppl are experiecing now

[Engineer]

Greetings!

Rest assured that we have plenty of new content on the way to spice up the end-game.

As announced during TGS and illustrated in a recent blog post, we will be adding a brand-new dungeon, Pharos Sirius, as well as hard modes for two existing dungeons. Additionally you can look forward to the Crystal Tower, extreme versions of primal battles, and much more!

Im really looking forward to Treasure Hunting.



I also wish there were ADVANCED HUNTING LOGS that we can hunt special monsters.

These monsters will be tied to duty similar to leve quest monsters so players outside your party cant attack. The Monster are hidden at random spots, so you would have to search for them. Monsters should be BIG and have lots of hp.

The target Difficulty should be for 1-3 people,, but raised difficulty LOGS should give higher rewards.



I like to hunt and explore in the open world, i would like more to do while waiting for Duty Finder.

[Wiggles]

Im really looking forward to Treasure Hunting.



I also wish there were ADVANCED HUNTING LOGS that we can hunt special monsters.

These monsters will be tied to duty similar to leve quest monsters so players outside your party cant attack. The Monster are hidden at random spots, so you would have to search for them. Monsters should be BIG and have lots of hp.

The target Difficulty should be for 1-3 people,, but raised difficulty LOGS should give higher rewards.



I like to hunt and explore in the open world, i would like more to do while waiting for Duty Finder.

Thats a good idea!

[Bahram]

Yeah, this has been a stupid problem of online games since I've ever played them. You create this whole world and then stuff people into 1 room. It's just counter-intuitive. Gotta think outside the box, but maybe that is too much to ask.

You must not have played EQ. Open worlds with zones that had bosses anyone could engage in was a nightmare. People wiping others for their shot at the boss, getting calls at 2AM because so-and-so spawned and your rival guild is gearing up to take him down, finding out that you can't do the dungeon because your rival guild cleared it the night before and it repops every week, etc.

I agree that it'd be awesome to utilize the open world more, but yeah, it'd take a lot of thinking and work to make it happen. There's a reason games moved so hard towards instancing. It used to be terrible and people still are terrible.

[Babydoll]

Here is the problem...
You all got excited, zoomed to 50 and did everything you could to make sure you had all the elite crap as fast as possible.

Why?

I am pretty sure you were replying to Hostar but I just wanted to say...not everyone plays the same >.< I did "take my time" so to speak with it...and I still got 50 on ACN in like 4 days and finished the story that fast. I didn't skip or rush through anything by any means either. I just played at my normal pace of which I do everything in my life.

Now everyday I been doing the same things over and over, either SR through CM or AK runs >.< Do a Titan every now and then for people who need for their next relic...some BC. Not much to do end game atm

I really wish SE would give us OPEN WORLD CONTENT......enough with the INSTANCED crap...

[MysteriousRonin]

I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes.