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It's like arguing with a brick wall. Nothing you are saying means Vanya is bad, or that nobody should ever use it.

In comparison with AF2/Allagan, Vanya can have:
-9 MND
-9 VIT
-2 Spell Speed
+20 Determination
+24 Critical Hit Rate

Not exactly unequivocally better, but no where near "useless", "senseless", or a "bad choice". You don't seem to understand that you aren't locked in a single type of gear... I'd love to give you a some examples where obtaining HQ Vanya would not only be the right choice, but it would be the BEST choice but I'm afraid the sentiment will bounce right off of your ignorance.

sorry mate... but really how can an equip that give me less stat... that require more time... that cost more effort... be a good choice?

I'm all open to your resoning... as before I understimated the stat of a r4 materia melded hq vanya considering it to be too much under stat... after your example i had to reconsider my point... it still is under stat (in particualr as I many time highlated the total absence of piety is really bad... and u get that at the cost of having all the other stat on equal lvl... so nothing is really compensating u for that big malus...) but less that what I expected... still... those under stat combined to the fact that it is as much if not harder to get that an AF2 makes it a bad choice... (bad choice = there is something that is better and is not harder to get... )


to me comparing the vanya to the af2 is just like comparing 4 apple to 5 apple... where the 4 apply cost more than the 5... with the difference that the 5 apple are given to u in a pack (after being controlled and passed trough a quality check...) and the 4 apple u can freely select them among the same pool from where the 5 appel have been taken...

the abilit to chose is a good thing... and I'm all for it... I'm even up for having a little less return for my ability to chose... but if i get:

less return (and not by a small margin)...
more price...
more time investment...

than sorry but again consideirng it anything else but a bad choice is really hard for me... so if u really have some example that could make the vanya more appealing than an AF2 I'm all here ready to listen to you...


PS: thx for that ignorance comment that really was useless ^^ is nice how poeple that have different idead's from u are ignorant... for me on the other side everyone that have different ideas from mine is someone that can potentialy teach me something if I listen enough... and even if at the end I end up with nothing new to learn at least that time was spent to make sure I wasn't wrong... because... you know... nobody is always right... and everyone can make a mistake ^^

PPS: in you last comparison u just fogot a -26 piety... that was the most important thing I argumented the stat disparity on ^^' also: 20 det is equal /less efficent thatn 9 mind (det seem to have a strange return) so u'r actualy trading 24 crit for 9 vit, 2 ss and AGAIN 26 piety... no matter how u look at it... that really is a big difference even if u'r going for a crit fishing build...