Skip Darklight?

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This has been puzzling me for awhile.

My initial goal was to rush Clerics, but of course things change.. Now I've been told that I need Darklight, but to be honest it's a great looking set the stats are just awful. I've been doing AK for the Strategos set. With 2 pieces of that ugly set down I'm wondering if i should just stop and get Darklight.

I'll have Clerics in like 3 weeks anyway. I already heal the same amount as people with Darklight so I fail to see why I should bother to get it.

[NadienKirisame]

I would get all but the darklight body... Though the full stratego set from AK is pretty much just as good or if you get a vanya robe and hat and then get the rest of the darklight. I would just stay away from the darklight body really...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Arkine]

If your circumstances allow you to skip it then go right ahead.

I don't understand how SE has endgame planned out, people are working on Darklight, Allag and AF2 gear at the same time with no real tiers of progression, same goes with Relic weapons and Primal weapons.

I guess this is why they're adding an item level requirement...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

That's a Lalafell though.

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I would get all but the darklight body... Though the full stratego set from AK is pretty much just as good or if you get a vanya robe and hat and then get the rest of the darklight. I would just stay away from the darklight body really...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

I am yet to see one piece of Vanya's..

[Comalol]

vanya is senselees at the moment...

it cost more token... crafting material... specific materia to meld... and even melded HQ has almost the same stat of a darklight...

[Jahaudant]

vanya is senselees at the moment...

it cost more token... crafting material... specific materia to meld... and even melded HQ has almost the same stat of a darklight...

5 melded HQ Vanya Robe of Healing is on par with AF2/Allgan

Going from memory here so it may be off but with the Vanya robe melded to it's stat caps you get:
20 MND
20 VIT
20 Det (1 Det IV)
24 Crit (3 Crit IV)
22 Spell Speed (1 S.Spd IV)

Versus AF2:
29 MND
29 VIT
26 Piety
24 Spell Speed

They are incredibly powerful pieces of gear and the head, body and hands can be crafted at a 100% HQ rate by someone who knows what they are doing.

[Comalol]

snip due to post limit -_-'

that could be right... but u'r using r4 materia... that are even more hard to get... also the time and gil needed for soulbounding enough equip end to get those materia (and found the right one) is quite huge... enough to give u time to farm your mithology...

also note that determination is acqually quite the bas stat with a return that is about half of pure stat... so while those 20 point of det will compensate for 9 point of mind u lose the 9 point of vit and the 26 point of piety that u loose will be REALLY heavy...

PS: to those that say SS is trash and crit is good... maybe u should do the mat and find out that SS and Crit have the same return in efficency... 105 point of crit increase critical chance by 8%... that is an effective healing/fmd efficency increase by 4%... 105 point of Spell/skill speed decrease the GCD by 0,1 that is a 4% increased cast speed that traslate in a 4% increased efficiency...

actually the only advantage of crit over SS is the mana/TP managament... but that goes at the cost of the increase proc rate over time that u get from firing additional skill... so based on your class u should think well about u chose (for example WHM with his free cost proc for cure II can make quite some use of increased SS... and this without taking into account our cd that increase SS by 100% turning us in spamming machine the more SS we have gathered...)

[Jahaudant]

stuff

I'm not arguing that 5 melding with Tier IVs is easy, I'm telling you Vanya has the potential to be just as good as AF2 and Allagan. It isn't, as you described, "senseless at the moment".

Please also remember that it will take you a couple of months to finish 5 pieces of AF2. Think about it.

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I'm not arguing that 5 melding with Tier IVs is easy, I'm telling you Vanya has the potential to be just as good as AF2 and Allagan. It isn't, as you described, "senseless at the moment".

Please also remember that it will take you a couple of months to finish 5 pieces of AF2. Think about it.

To be honest Allagan looks soooooo much better than Vanya. But you're right, I'm yet to even see one piece of it on any server. :/

[Comalol]

I'm not arguing that 5 melding with Tier IVs is easy, I'm telling you Vanya has the potential to be just as good as AF2 and Allagan. It isn't, as you described, "senseless at the moment".

Please also remember that it will take you a couple of months to finish 5 pieces of AF2. Think about it.

the same time (or even more if luck is not on your side) can be necessary to acquire... soulbind... extract the relevant materia... this pose the vanya on the same time frame for acquisition (and as said it can be largely dependant on pure lack...)

to this u have to add: the large number of philosophy that u need to craft the item... the other crafting matrials... all the item that u will need for the r4 materia (that actually I've yet to understand from wich item can be salvaged since dungeon drop are almost all non convertible :/)


looking at this... and looking at the stat that are as said... similar on values but with some large hole on the ditribution (total absence of piety can really hurt... especialy a WHM... and if u use materia yo fill that hole u will be left with reduced overall stat...)

the vanya is: equaly time consuming... more expensive... similar but a little under on the stat... with less defense (that for us caster can be a little malus... not big as for tank but still a muns for the vanya)... over all a subpar equip (by little but still subpar) with higher requirment... this is what I call a bad choice... or useless... since the same (or even better less) effort award a better result...

the onlyreason someone would chose a vanya over a AF2 is:

skin... but even the vanya is not the bright of a skin... and we are under the personal preference argument...
stat personalization... that can be a plus of the vanya... if not for that BIG hole that I have previously pointed out... if only it had a resonable amount of piety to begin with and u could have simply selected to go for higher mind at the cost of lower piety or higher secondary at cost of lower primary... than it would have been a fair trade off (this only talking about stat and not the other aspect previously explained)... but as it is now the tradeoff for the stat personalization si an overall HEAVY deficinency on main stat...

so... if u still think that uselees is a bit too hard... (personaly I'm still of that opinion...) u should probably concurr that at best it can be classified as really inefficent alternative


PS: I forgot one additional aspect that is detrimental to the vanya... that is the crafter fee... if' ur not a crafter yourself (if u are than u should also compute part of the time u spent on lvl the crafting skill on the vanya cost... part since the rest can bear his fruit thx to trade board...) u will also need a crafter that will probably ask for a fee (the one I found on my server asked the astronomical price of 100k per piece + all materials cost on me -_-') + the additional fee that many crafter require for the melding...