Skip Darklight?

[Leiloni]

Summoners don't do good damage at all, they currently parse buggy and do more damage on parser than they actually are in game. SMN's aren't hard to play by any stretch, just very low damage.

No it's the other way around, the parser doesn't properly pick up the ticks of their DoTs which is just a problem with how the logs record stuff, so they actually do more damage than parsers say they do. As for the difficulty I don't personally find them hard since I've played DoT classes before, but some people have trouble a)finding the right rotation, and b)keeping up all the DoTs properly for maximum dps. That along with the pet, and their various situational skills, means it's a lot of micromanaging and lots of cooldowns to worry about in order to do well. So the average SMN is prob not all that good.

But let's get back to discussing how hideous the Darklight cowl is please... ;(

[Gamemako]

20 Det (1 Det IV)
24 Crit (3 Crit IV)
22 Spell Speed (1 S.Spd IV)

Teehee... overmelding 3 level 4 materia? I'm sorry there are not more than 3 level 4 materia on the market at all, the cost is absurd for the materials, and overmelding 3 of them will take about 25-30 total level materia due to fails. In return, you'll get no additional MND, which is kind of important.

And yeah, Vanya is unequivocally weaker than AF+1. You will be both easier to kill in event of screwups and heal less. You seem to have confused raw stat points for the value of those stat points. 1 MND is an order of magnitude more valuable than DTR in terms of amount healed. Your crit rate will not nearly make up the difference.

Vanya costs an insane amount of materia and gil to create, plus you're counting on binding 5 level 4 materia. This is impossible on Coeurl right now because there is not a soul on the server who possesses the appropriate level IV materia, nor is it available on the market board (no matter how insanely wealthy you may be), and nobody certainly has the number needed to overmeld 3 times. The material costs to make Vanya from dungeon drops by purchasing them is to the tune of 1 million gil, nevermind HQ fails and paying the crafter. There are not 100 players on the server with that much gil on hand, and there are not materials to make even one set like you claim. So yeah, ain't gonna happen.

[Yahavage]

Strageos bliaud and Strageos Coif = +26 MND
Darklight cowl of healing =+33 MND AND +29 determination
It's not rocket science kids!

[Terius]

Just change the order for what you get things in.

Get full Darklight Jewelery first, (4 pieces, you cant have 2 rings of the same kind, sucks for healers.) Then use 900 for the Relic Quest, then anything else you make is a bonus and can be used to slowly get any Darklight pieces that might help. (Strategos will tide you over fine, maybe even save DL pieces for an alt job if you're gonna get AF2 gear with Myth stones)

[Sebastianaru]

Well Darklight is item level 70 and the stuff that drops in AK is 60. Soo.... yes you want Darklight. Each piece may only be a 1-3 Mind increase but they generally add secondary stats and vitality. You'll probably want 3.1k-3.4k before doing Titan Hardmode...

I have 3k from AK gear and the Darklight robe/cowl. I kinda need those other 4 pieces for the vitality boost so i don't die if DPS can't get Titan out of the stomp phase.

[Wulfgang]

One of the advantages to the crafted accessories is that you can meld VIT in a slot which traditionally does not have any (on mage-focused accessories). VIT seems to be heavily underrated here; MND is obviously potent, but VIT is critical. One of our best Turn 5 WHMs runs with nearly 3,800 HP base.

That said, the crafted pieces and materia are a pain to get together. Allagan / AF2 takes a long time to piece together a set; there are alternatives to Darklight from crafting, and some of the stats are not optimal, but it gives you a pretty well-rounded WHM generally speaking. If you have AF2 on the immediate horizon for a slot, I'd skip that DL piece, but I wouldn't just sit on the 60 AK set until AF2 / Allagan.

[Animation]

Strageos bliaud and Strageos Coif = +26 MND
Darklight cowl of healing =+33 MND AND +29 determination
It's not rocket science kids!

There's more to it than just numbers though, theirs the time spent and how long I'll keep the DL set for.
As I already have the cowl as I got stuck on Titan so I spent them.

But I still need:
Gloves - 495
Belt - 375
Breeches - 825
Boots - 495
That's 2190 Tombs just there and 22 runs of Castrum.

Then we got the accessories.
Earrings - 375
Choker - 375
bracelet - 375
Ring - 375
That's 1500 and another 15 runs making the total amount 37 runs just for the set.
Then I need another 900 for my Relic, add that and it's 46 runs. Assuming each CM is 30 minutes long it'll take 1 day of constant playing just to get that.

Hence why I asked if it worth to spend that amount of time for something I'll lend up getting rid off soon.

One of the advantages to the crafted accessories is that you can meld VIT in a slot which traditionally does not have any (on mage-focused accessories). VIT seems to be heavily underrated here; MND is obviously potent, but VIT is critical. One of our best Turn 5 WHMs runs with nearly 3,800 HP base.

That said, the crafted pieces and materia are a pain to get together. Allagan / AF2 takes a long time to piece together a set; there are alternatives to Darklight from crafting, and some of the stats are not optimal, but it gives you a pretty well-rounded WHM generally speaking. If you have AF2 on the immediate horizon for a slot, I'd skip that DL piece, but I wouldn't just sit on the 60 AK set until AF2 / Allagan.

Would you be kind enough to show me his set up? I know to do TBCoB you need Darklight minimum. :/

[Chewstay]

HM Titan and Binding Coil Turns 1, 2 and 3 can be done in all AK greens for your entire party.

My group has progressed to turn 4 with mostly AK greens and 4-5 DL each.

You'll want relic +1 on your dps and full DL to progress through Turn 4. Having a crafted green would also be helpful. They aren't too expensive provided you farm the tomestones yourself. You should be able to line up a piece for ~50-70k.

Since this is the healer forum what do YOU need? My gear right now is acceptable to heal Turn 4 and I'm still rocking 4 of those AK greens and no +1 relic:
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/2379388/

If you just hit 50 I would:
- Run AK, buy DL Jewelery + belt
- Fill in armor with Strategos pieces (AK Greens)
- Save your Myths to get +1 relic (900)
- Once you have all DL/Strategos you are good for Coil
- Continue running AK every week to cap Myth
- Use extra Philosophies to craft a green piece

[Animation]

/snip.

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/3821227/

It's a little slow on updating, seemingly as I already have the belt and almost got pants.
I'm saving the jewelry for last, that way the last strech is rather quick. I already have 600 Myth Tombs so I'll pretty much have my relic+1 next week.

I failed Titan heaps so I just got darklight :/

[Masta]

HM Titan and Binding Coil Turns 1, 2 and 3 can be done in all AK greens for your entire party.

My group has progressed to turn 4 with mostly AK greens and 4-5 DL each.

He speaks the truth, Coil turns 1-3 arnt as gear dependent as people think, DL set is nice but I don't bother with much of it, I only bought the accessories because clowns are raging over gear levels but I did titan HM with just ak gear 3 DL pieces and my lvl 46 GC wand/with a lesser lvl'd shield. (just a 2 healer set up with 1 tank) immediately following that I went got my relic weapon and with the same group went into coil 1, and played around with the snake a little bit, next week ill have my relic +1, im not gonna use any myth tomes on DL ilvl 90, I plan to just pick up allagan pieces while I keep selling philo mats.