PS3 Graphics Quality

[ruskie]

1. Why do the graphics seem lowered versus the PC Version? It was my understanding that while the PS3 could probably be outdone by modern gamin PC's, that the PS3 should have no problem rendering these graphics as that is what it was specifically designed to do. Is this lack of Ultra-quality due to a hardware limitation or is it latency-related?

Ok. It's mostly to do with the limited graphical RAM on the PS3. You can't load high quality textures in 256MB of it. It just can't be done. The PS4 should rectify this.

2. No statements have been given regarding enemies failing to render when large groups of players are all doing the same "Fate" in the same location. What is the current standing on this wide-spread issue?

This has been fleshed out on other threads but basically it's a culling issue. The system has the wrong culling priority to remove stuff that isn't relevant to you. It's both a PC and PS3 issue. I believe SE have said they are looking into it.

3. Are the overall graphics and/or rendering issues PS3 users are experiencing related to a more specific hardware limitation regarding the network capabilities of the PS3. More specifically, are us PS3 players being limited due to an outdated Ethernet hardware on the console perhaps not capable of handling the bandwidth required for premium rendering?

Graphics/rendering have nothing to do with the network latency. and frankly the PS3 has a gigabit ethernet connection available. Which will mostly be unused since most home connections aren't anywhere near that area. It shouldn't affect latency as well but there could be a buggy ethernet controller on the PS3 but that would have I assume poped up earlier. If using a wired connection it shouldn't be an issue really. Wireless on the other hand would be.

I only bring these issues up because I am led by examples from other games to believe that the PS3 is capable of handling high-quality rendering even on a large multi-player scale so I wonder why the graphics are hampered when it comes to PS3 players? I also have a PC license of the game and it plays much more efficient than the PS3 both graphically and latency-related. It has older hardware such as the I7 920 quad core and an even older graphics card (Nvidia GTS 250) and it still handles the game better. Why is this?

I assume most of the engine is optimized for the PC and not the PS3 so there is a limitation in the software itself in terms of graphical fidelity and overall performance. I am a PS3 player but you need to consider it is an 8 year old system with a lot of limitations that if not properly approached really limit what it can do.

And some general suggestions for PS3/controller players. Setup the crossbars to have a couple shown only when weapon is drawn so you can easily cycle through the two. Makes skill selection much easier. And also left/right trigger with one of the shoulder buttons will cycle through enemies on screen. Makes target selection dead easy. Both of these things can be found on the forums as well(the first has a youtube video as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lof8nKmlTH4). Hope it helps.

[xSinful_Snake]

I concur with your answers on #1 and #2. Thanks especially for listing the ram available to the PS3 as I was unaware the GPU was only able to handle 255mb.. That seems surprisingly low but explains why an Nvidia GTS259 (capable of up to 1GB of GPU ram) would obviously perform better and it's safe I say that the actual functions of the game operate mostly well, with exception to the culling priority, so it's not to say that the game is broken for us PS3 players.

I also had already assumed that the Ethernet port on the PS3 was capable of a gigabit transfer rate but still wonder if therein lies some sort of hardware limitation as for instance at any given time in my home, my PS3 is the only device hard wired to the router with all PC's and other devices being off throughout the day.

You're also probably right a out he engine being optimized for PC Users though I do hope the PS4 version comes with more engine compatibility.

The last tidbit of advice regarding targeting made me laugh simply because my first response to it was "We have to HAVE a target first in order to toggle through them with the trigger buttons".

P.S.
When I press R1 while in combat I would assume this would toggle a target from one to the next (assumably to the right), but all it does is toggle the next crossbar in my UI. Am I doing it incorrectly?

[ruskie]

If you only have issues with your PS3 then there might be an issue with the cable or the port on the router etc... There are so many things that might cause issues there. But atleast with a wired connection you can try and diagonse those.

Well the PS4 is basically a PC - except it has some insane ram config - I can see it being as a very decent system. And I assume that it will get the same makeover as the DX11 version for the PC.

You need to hold the left or right trigger and then use r1/l1 to cycle targets(this will work even if you don't have a target yet).

So hold L2/R2 and then use R1/L1 to cycle.

[xSinful_Snake]

Ah okay that makes sense. I wasn't using it like that. I'll that next time for sure.

[EvianEverdeen]

12+ hours? LOL LOL LOL

On a lighter note, PCs are powerhouse machines capable of the best graphics money can buy. The PS3 is NOT a powerhouse machine and is limited by what your 250 or so odd dollars just bought you. The PS4 will be better obviously in terms of an update in hardware, graphics, and speed and all that, but a capable PC will dwarf a PS3 or PS4 at any given time.

[EvianEverdeen]

Ok. It's mostly to do with the limited graphical RAM on the PS3. You can't load high quality textures in 256MB of it. It just can't be done. The PS4 should rectify this.

Don't think the PS3 has 256MB of graphical RAM (like RAM found in a video/graphics card), I think it has 256MB of OVERALL RAM for the entire system. So yeah, a jump from 256MB (PS3) to 8GB (PS4) is going to be significant.

[ruskie]

It has 512 mb total ram split half way between system and graphics use.

[Betelgeuzah]

Somebody is totally overestimating the power of a 7-year-old console.

[Sasse]

The fact that FFXIV runs as well as it does on a 7 year old console is a marvel to me. If they fix the fate targeting issues, there really is no valid complaint to be had.

If graphical quality is such a premium, then playing on a PC is the obvious choice.

[djrdo]

12 hours a day...
12 hours a day.... do u know what the sun and moon still look like m8?
but yeah im with everyone else ps3 is 7 years old u find a store bought pc from 7 years ago and see how that plays ff14:ARR.

im useing a 2 year old laptop hooked up to my tv.
and well it would fmess up a ps3 anyday
i run at a steady 30 fps on 1920-1080 res, on standard laptop gfx
if i run it at a regular laptop resolution i can hit highest QL gfx at 50 fps
but i like my big tv

PC's are the greatest when it comes to gameing.
consoles just ruined it for us was all