So.. 2.1 is still 2 months away? (November)

**surrel** · 09-18-2013 11:33 PM

Stop playing the game. Don't subscribe. Pretend the game comes out in November.

**Khalette** · 09-18-2013 11:38 PM

I think it's amazing game to start with. It's got an amazing foundation, and content every 3 months is plenty.

**Althea** · 09-18-2013 11:40 PM

New content isn't really a concern of mine yet.

There's still SO many core game issues that really need to be addressed. A lot of things that don't feel very "polished" yet. The network code specifically still could use a lot of work. An update frequency of 0.3 seconds is still much too long.

I do look forward to a barbershop though ...

**NoctisCaelus** · 09-19-2013 12:43 AM

Please look forward to it!

**oda** · 09-19-2013 01:41 AM

Judging by OPs armory profile, he has plenty to do still.

**Shiyo** · 09-19-2013 04:27 AM

Leveling is super boring, the only fun part of the game is at end game, and the end game isn't enough to sustain players for 3-4 months unless you enjoy sitting around doing nothing for hours waiting for your group to log on to do coil. That isn't fun for me, though. In FFXI I could craft, fish, farm, run BCNM's, solo/duo/trio sky pops, solo/duo/trio sea pops, farm zeni with 2-3 people, farm VWNM pops with 2-3 people, leveling other classes was actually enjoyable, I could mine, I could do so much.

Crafting in this? 1-50 in a day, 3 tops, gathering? Shards are the most money/hour as a 50 miner/botanist, which you can do at level1, there's little to no use of gil and "farming" consists of soulbinding gear and turning it into materia. Which is ok and something to do I guess, but gil doesn't allow me to progress my character in any way, only coil gear does. Fishing takes 2 days to cap at 50, 4 tops. It's just too quick/easy to get everything done in this game. Leveling a craft to cap should take you months and millions of gil + farming to cap it, it should be an accomplishment, not something I can knock out in a weekend. Relics should take a better part of a year, if not longer, to finish, not a SINGLE DAY. I started my relic and finished it in the SAME DAY, never having done garuda/titan with my group before, we still downed them both. There's almost no use of any crafted gear except some 2 star pieces at 50 craft, which takes dungeon runs to make anyways. If I'm capped on darklight gear, and have my 300 tokens for the week, I literally have nothing to do besides afk until my group is on to run coil - the same as every other RAID MMO. That isn't fun.

Originally Posted by Azgarde

I honestly doubt you guys all have Coils on farm ... so there's something to do ! (Get to 50, gear up for it, clear required content etc...)

I can't just spam coil all day, I need 7 other players I play with to log on all at the same time with different playtimes, so at most you can do coil a few times a week for 4-5 hours or something, in base case scenarios. Am I supposed to afk in town and play other games while I wait to do the only content I have left in the game? That isn't fun, I should have tons of solo/duo/trio content I can knock out while waiting to do raid content, like FFXI did.

**Oogalooga** · 09-19-2013 06:09 AM

Originally Posted by Shiyo

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Months to level up crafting? A year to get relic weapon? You need to just stop.

**Joshyuchiha** · 09-19-2013 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by Shiyo

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So everything should be a huge time sink like in XI?
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My problem with leveling is not how long it takes, it's that (on your other jobs after your first) there's one method that is FAR more efficient than any other (FATE grinding) for exp. They either need to nerf FATE exp a bit or buff dungeons and/or battlecraft leves.

Crafting leves can make leveling a craft very quick but it takes a while to accumulate new allowances so you can zerg a craft if you want but if you want to level the others that way you'll need to save up more allowances and you'll want to not use any for DoW/DoM (which you don't anyway due to how OP FATES are atm). The problem isn't how long it takes to level a craft it's that some crafts (like alchemy potions and cooking overall) are barely useful at all and I think they REALLY need to fix this.

Better part of a year for your relic? Maybe for relic on ALL your jobs but on ONE JOB? No.jpg
I can agree that other than the skill check that is Titan the steps to get a relic are sort of underwhelming but making it a huge grind is really no more fun imo. Personally I wish that they'd had some interesting solo challenges or (if it would've been in at launch) require you to do some stuff in Crystal Tower.

**Azgarde** · 09-19-2013 04:29 AM

I honestly doubt you guys all have Coils on farm ... so there's something to do ! (Get to 50, gear up for it, clear required content etc...)

**Trife** · 09-19-2013 04:30 AM

I hope it does take 2 months. I parked my BLM at 30 and am working on my crafting/gathering roles. I'd like to get them leveled before the next patch for sure.

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