What is wrong with this community?

[Riion]

In my experiences, specifically endgame, this community is vile. You better know each instance inside and out before your first run because if you dare make a mistake on someone else's 100th ak run there's going to be hell to pay. Don't expect any explanations; there will be none. This is the reason I will no longer continue playing the game.

[Vyserion]

I've been pugging CM every run since I hit 50. I haven't met a single group of ragers yet, save one tank in my first run because I wasn't skipping cutscenes (when no one asked me to, and half the group said it was fine if I did). Since then, most of my tanks and groups have been great.

[Nihility]

it's just the internet community in america in general

people are just getting progressively more vile and nasty by the day.
back in the everquest and ffxi days you could screw up encounters that actually cost a lot of resources to start and people would be patient and teach you until you got it
even in the early days of WoW you could make groups of total strangers and get stuff done

nowadays you have stuff like the guy in tera that just powers to max level in a couple days then spends the next month in the lowest level zone he can kill people in one shotting and harassing people with the intention of trying to make them quit the game and can't even understand how that might be seen as poor behavior
or in ffxiv you need to know every encounter before you even try it for the first time or you get blacklisted by entire free companies for not doing it perfectly

every safe zone is littered with people in crafting pose because logging in is too much to ask for. Funny thing is if we didn't have such a huge population of people doing that we would have no queue instead of an extremely short queue

if you actually do fates with the intention of completing them you get blacklisted by the giant hordes of people trying to exploit the quick spawning mobs for fast exp

and everyone sings the "leave me alone it doesn't effect you" song but once you do something they don't like they completely 180 on that stance

[Raxion]

I've been pugging CM every run since I hit 50. I haven't met a single group of ragers yet, save one tank in my first run because I wasn't skipping cutscenes (when no one asked me to, and half the group said it was fine if I did). Since then, most of my tanks and groups have been great.

Count yourself as one of the luckiest DF users in the game, then.

[NZ_Player]

Thread: What is wrong with this community?

a: there is still free game time left.
once people start having to pay, things will pan out

[Vyserion]

Count yourself as one of the luckiest DF users in the game, then.

I will specify that this is CM, which is likely the easiest 50 dungeon in the game. Pugging Amdapor Keep is a 50/50 shot of breeze or nightmare. I will say that the most frustrating dungeon runs I've experienced stem from overconfident tanks trying to do speed runs they either don't know how to do or aren't geared for. Now that everyone's in farm-mentality, no one wants to explain the basics of fights to newcomers - these things happen in CM and AK because they're farmed so frequently. All i can suggest to most people is to speak up when you're new --- most teams won't mind and will explain what's going on. The worst thing anyone can do is not talk to their team and wait til things go wrong to speak up.

[Aibo]

In my experiences, specifically endgame, this community is vile. You better know each instance inside and out before your first run because if you dare make a mistake on someone else's 100th ak run there's going to be hell to pay. Don't expect any explanations; there will be none. This is the reason I will no longer continue playing the game.

exactly this.
i've tried HM Titan today for the first time (got Garuda/DL and stuff, so people wont bash the gear), and got shit on by some DRG for a mistake of getting aggro from Titan and dying on the first ever try.
i quit and got repeating pms from that same DRG of how "fcking bad" i am and should "go back wow" [sic], which i've never played.
i did run Titan a few times after, did fine, never beat it of course, but first bitter experience kind of ruined this fight for me.

i got that i probably won't be gettin my relic, so spent the tomes on some extra DL accessories.
and will probably go fishing for the rest of the trial. SE doesn't want my money anyway.

while you can go on all day about "bad apples" and "subscriptions will weed them out". fact is fact, people just ruining other people's first experience.
and some people don't have "thicker skin" or FC/LS to fall back on.

[Maverick_Zero]

Wait until you use Duty Finder to get into some HM Ifrit runs. I'll admit I myself am an asshole SOMETIMES in those runs, but it's not my fault that the DPS are incapable of taking down the nails in time without a BLM or SMN to Meteor them. I ran into a group with 3 Monks and they still didn't even come close to taking down the nails in time (LBing the first and last ones). For healers that go OOM in a short amount of time, tanks that can't reasonably hold threat, or DPS who can't kill worth crap: if you are going to attempt endgame, please do not fate grind to 50 and expect people to carry you because you have no idea how to play your job, but this practically goes for all MMO gamers in general.

P.S. HM Garuda duty finder groups are absolutely the worst. It's always in HM Ifrit or HM Garuda where people have no clue what's new in the fight, have not bothered to look up any guides or videos, and/or don't even state as much before the initial pull and wonder why we wipe.

[Rochetm]

Anyone that says "Go back to WoW" is a wow player and you can bet a terrible one as well.

This game is far to hard and grindy for the type of people that are nasty and hateful. Nasty and hateful almost always goes along with being bad as well. Over time more people are going to do things server/fc only and that is going to mean all those nasty people that also probably suck will be forced to deal with each other... and quit.

I did the goblin dungeon... breyflox or whatever... my first time I ran out of time because the people in my group where terrible but I never yelled at anyone for it. The second time there I get this Dragoon that keeps pulling and I knew he would be a problem. Sure enough when we get to the chest area the blm who had never been there before walked into an area and spawned mobs ahead of us. Super dragoon then used the next five minutes to rage at the blm before telling him to go back to wow and then dropping group. One chest in a level 30ish instance was enough for that guy to fricken lose it and it was kind of fun to watch just because the Blm didn't even know he was being yelled at.

If you run into good players in duty finder and they are on your server friend them. Bad ones blacklist. It is up to us to keep this community clean and it is still possible even with the WoW derp spreading around. Lotro has a very nice community and it came out after WoW so games can still be good.

[VanWulfen]

"Why hello there young man, I'm your ride back to [insert name here]."