What is wrong with this community?

[Methuselah]

So I'm farming CM with a friend to help him finish getting his Darklight. I get into a group with a pull-happy tank that pulls the second boss and locks a couple people out. We wiped, then he starts trying to trash talk me (the other tank). Then AFKs when I talk back to him.

This is just one minor example of what running with random players has been like in this game. The online community has become nothing more than a cesspool of trash floating downhill to a sewage plant.

If this is the community I can expect to have to deal with, I'm not sure I'll stay. I just can't take being verbally assaulted in every other run for absolutely nothing.

Sadly I've had the same experience in game only on a more wide spread scale. I am one of those people that will talk to random people in cities because of how there character looks or the name they chose. It's become rare that other people will answer you much less even acknowledge your existance in game.

When people do talk, like in dungeons it's usually foul language or people acting like there better than others for some reason.

It's an mmo everyone

The point of the game is to exist in a social environment that also enjoys gaming together.

Stop changing it into some kind of horrible nightmare.

[Lani]

Transfer to JP server.

I have ran into two English rude ppl so far.

You can always choose to play with JP only players. They never rude or impolite... Though one did strip down to his subligar the other night and streaked through the dungeon while the rest of us ran after him cheer and blowing kisses. Speaking the same language of the people you play with is overated.

[nails]

My best advise when doing instance is to look at the toxic players as entertainment, and to also feel sorry for them. Very few toxic players survive in mmo unless backed by an entourage of other toxic players.

[Vix_Spellweaver]

Its the cross server duty system. Why would anyone show respect to someone they wont have to deal with on a daily basis.

[Raxion]

Its the cross server duty system. Why would anyone show respect to someone they wont have to deal with on a daily basis.

Because they're a decent human being?

Do you go around wasting random people's time and trashing talking the hell out of them for nothing, in your day-to-day life? Common courtesy doesn't stop at the border of your keyboard. People seem to forget that there's actual people behind the character.

[Payadopa]

Because they're a decent human being?

Do you go around wasting random people's time and trashing talking the hell out of them for nothing, in your day-to-day life? Common courtesy doesn't stop at the border of your keyboard. People seem to forget that there's actual people behind the character.

It's comments like that that seriously restore my faith in human beings. Thanks! I mean it.

[Vix_Spellweaver]

Because they're a decent human being?

Do you go around wasting random people's time and trashing talking the hell out of them for nothing, in your day-to-day life? Common courtesy doesn't stop at the border of your keyboard. People seem to forget that there's actual people behind the character.

Maybe you misunderstood my statement. Of course We/I don't do those things in public.
But we all know this concept doesn't translate to video games. Don't believe me? Spend an hour playing COD. People are downright mean and abusive over the smallest of things.

Again, I blame the cross server system. People will easily tread on someone's feelings as long as they can hide behind a screen, and especially if they can hide on a different server.

[KimimiAvesta]

But we all know this concept doesn't translate to video games. Don't believe me? Spend an hour playing COD. People are downright mean and abusive over the smallest of things.

Again, I blame the cross server system. People will easily tread on someone's feelings as long as they can hide behind a screen, and especially if they can hide on a different server.

If you're going to blame anything, blame the "But it's only a game, it's not real life!" excuses that eventually become accepted "truths" because they're trundled out so often. Every time you say "Well nobody acts like that IRL, but it's OK because it happens all the time in <INSERT ONLINE GAME HERE> you're -

a) Giving these basement dwellers the A-OK to continue (after all, we *expect* them to behave this way - it's a game, not RL!)
b) Making it harder for people who wish to display basic good manners to say anything against them because after all "It's a game! You have to expect this behaviour!" - meaning rude behaviour and crass language (over a flippin' chest/loot/boss, by The Twelve!) is the accepted norm and to behave otherwise, even in a positive manner, is going against the grain.

It's nothing to do with cross server parties, and everything to do with all of us who stay silent in DF when someone's running their mouth off at a newbie for nothing in particular - if we stop accepting that sort of behaviour then it becomes unacceptable.

To use FFXI as an example - that game now isn't showing a close-knit group of friendly gamers all keen to help each other out (outside of the odd personal LS anyway) because the quality of their server's parties depends on it , it's showing niches within cliques within niches where everyone's got to have the best all the time because they're all so afraid of their server rep. It's not open and friendly where everybody knows your name and gives you a friendly /wave, it's insular and exclusionary.

(I'm using your post as a springboard to further discussion by the way, it's not meant to be an "attack" on your text)

[Eldaena]

Its the cross server duty system. Why would anyone show respect to someone they wont have to deal with on a daily basis.

I've actually had a few people be rude and such believing they were not on my server, when in fact they were. It was kind of funny, but also kind of sad that our server had bad eggs like that. Does anyone know if blacklisting someone like that prevents you from getting into a duty finder party with that person again?

[Aldora]

- snip -

The thing is, jerks are likely to stand out more then the more friendly and helpful people. Luckily, there are plenty of people who want to invest time to teach others how to run a dungeon or at least do not burst into a rage because of a wipe.

Yesterday I saw the following shout in Camp Revenant Toll: "Titan HM speed run and farming party 7/8 looking for white mage. Geared and experienced. No f**k ups tolerated!"

I didn't know people would actually say that when forming parties... It's sad really.

But, Reinheart, you can always call me if you need an extra hand with anything.

If there are any new players on Sargatanas who need help learning the first 3 dungeons, don't hesitate to ask for assistance. I love to help out in anyway I can. Having a good basis will help you on the long run.