Endgame Progression, Elitism and You

[nekochen]

Well damn. I beat Titan, Garuda and Ifrit HM's with AF gear... Maybe I was dreaming.

Well damn, I remember the first time I beat Titan HM, one of the healer died at 80% remaining HP (yes.. he got punched off the platform as soon as Titan lands the first time), that person beat Titan while lying down on the floor, AFK, went to kitchen for a tea.

Your point?

[XyleHarkyn]

Titan hard mode down! Going to make some mods to the guide soon, after I get some sleep.

[FyeyaHerald]

Seriously more people should be willing to give less geared players a chance.

I'm a tank in mostly ilvl 60 gear; not perfect, no, but enough for Garuda easily and maybe Titan, yes, I think so; if my party is well equipped also.

I'll never find out though, because until I'm in full DL everything, no group will let me try.

[Kinseykinz]

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So, I want to be clear, I looked up your character profile to help you. I also know it can be a little out of date. Here's however why people are unwilling to let you tank some of these battles:

1. Your MRD/WAR is level 50 (good ) ....but, your GLA/PLD is only level 16. This means you are missing a fair amount of 'Tanking Abilities'
2. In addition to this, your PGL/MNK is only level 6. Again, this means you are missing several key tanking skills.
Link: http://www.ffxivinfo.com/job/warrior.php Just so you can see what you are missing.
3. Warriors, especially under-geared/low HP Warriors, with little Cross-class Damage Reduction Skills absorb a Healers MP pool like a sponge. You're quite frankly, much harder to keep alive than even a PLD in similar gear/lack of cross-skills.

Now, you said you have some I60 level gear. That's good. But your bigger issue is you want to Tank on WAR, without the cross-skills you need to effectively do it. You could have full darklight, but without skills like Second Wind, and Awareness, you are making a healers job (and the parties) needlessly difficult-impossible.

I am not trying to be an ass or mean in anyway. The game has been out a month. You shouldn't be ready for all of this yet. Garuda+ Content is really for people who have a Main Job and their Sub-classes leveled fully, with the gil and tomes to invest in upper gear. The Coil is for fully-geared/reliced groups who've exhausted all other content.

[Risae]

Good work.

[Tigerwong]

If I were the healer, unless the undergeared tank is from my FC plus the person is guaranteed to stay in the FC in the future, there is no other circumstance I will take an undergeared tank. Why would I want to cast heal 3 times everytime the tank is hit, when I can heal only 2 times with an averagely geared tank? Whose gonna give me back the extra mana I spent?

It's reality. No one wants to do extra work.

Yes you can beat HM Titan, but sorry they used to beat it even faster and easier. It was you who put extra pressure on the remaining 7 people.

If you are so sure that you, the undergeared one, is actually carrying them back, you can advertise youself saying, "If I don't top the (insert parser name) dps meter, I pay everyone 10k GIL". I'm pretty sure you will get a group very soon. If you are not THAT confident, go gear up and play normally like everyone does.

[Xariann]

Am I the only one here who feels bad about going somewhere while still undergeared and putting strain on the rest of my party?

The OP at least spent a good amount of time trying to show what to do once you hit 50. I have people, both friends and in FC, who tell me that I need to gear up for stuff whenever I ask about the requirements of a new dungeon I don't know about (well I know them now, but that was when I had just hit 50). Then they will tell me WHERE to go to get the gear. And some would come with me to help me get it. What is wrong with that?

Why would I want to force them to come and surely wipe because of me being the weak link in the chain? It's very different from saying, "OK FC, let's go do this encounter nobody here ever did to see how it's like." What I see instead is people asking to be carried. And this is coming from someone who DOESN'T have the gear to do Titan HM, not from someone who already has it and doesn't want "lowly newbies" to join her.

[OrigamiElephant]

Please don't update your "reserved" posts. I'm pretty sure no one else wants to hear more from you.

Yeah, took all of two sentences before that became completely obvious.

[Jombo]

Please don't update your "reserved" posts. I'm pretty sure no one else wants to hear more from you.

I would like to hear more from him.