Very Hard To Acquire Money (Gil) In This Game

[Kaedan94]

@Kaedan94:
words like "Sorry son, but I'm both older, more educated, and wiser than you" do not make you any wiser or more educated (or good at simple math), sorry.

I was stating a fact. He started off his post by insulting my educational background and intelligence, and then proceeded to prove himself to be uneducated and inexperienced on the matter, not to mention he made incorrect statements and was arguing about something that isn't even the topic of the thread (and was still wrong about it).

Some advice: Stay out of things that aren't your business. Nobody likes a busybody.

Now, if you'd like me to tell you how you can make more money than you need, I'd be happy to help. AK alone is not always guaranteed to pay for your repairs, but you can run AK at least 6 times before having to repair (probably closer to 10), and you will always have enough ABPs to pay for your repairs after that many runs.

If you're willing to do something besides run dungeons, I can give you some help in that area as well.

[Nenin]

Which is why even if everyone maxes out each class, there will still be a need for the skilled crafters.

I hate to say it but right now leveling a crafting class to 50 is trivial with the current state of leves.

Nothing really sets apart a decked out crafter from one who just hit 50 either. Unless you want to HQ iLvl 70 gear there's no difference in your abilities. It's not like having 365 craftsmanship allows me to meld any better. There are no HQ +1,2,3 in this game so once you can HQ something 100% of the time it doesn't matter if your gear cost you 50k or you spent a million stat capping every piece.

Being on a Legacy server I can't even break into the iLvl 70 market even though I can afford to make some and have the stats/abilities to HQ them. So many people had ingredients stockpiled from 1.0 that they are able to sell HQ 70 gear for less than the total cost of the market ingredients.

[Austin]

You can't just run dungeons, you have to stop and farm. It's actually quite fun

[HurtigeKarl]

I hate to say it but right now leveling a crafting class to 50 is trivial with the current state of leves.

Nothing really sets apart a decked out crafter from one who just hit 50 either. Unless you want to HQ iLvl 70 gear there's no difference in your abilities. It's not like having 365 craftsmanship allows me to meld any better. There are no HQ +1,2,3 in this game so once you can HQ something 100% of the time it doesn't matter if your gear cost you 50k or you spent a million stat capping every piece.

Being on a Legacy server I can't even break into the iLvl 70 market even though I can afford to make some and have the stats/abilities to HQ them. So many people had ingredients stockpiled from 1.0 that they are able to sell HQ 70 gear for less than the total cost of the market ingredients.

This means they need to nerf the inner force + steady hand + hasty touch combination; it is making crafting too easy.

[Hawklaser]

Nothing really sets apart a decked out crafter from one who just hit 50 either. Unless you want to HQ iLvl 70 gear there's no difference in your abilities. It's not like having 365 craftsmanship allows me to meld any better. There are no HQ +1,2,3 in this game so once you can HQ something 100% of the time it doesn't matter if your gear cost you 50k or you spent a million stat capping every piece.

The simple fact the dedicated crafters can HQ those high end items, but your average Joe can not is what make it so even though everyone can craft there will still be a market for the dedicated crafters provided the items they make stay relevant.

[Brojam]

As far as acquiring Gil I have no issues what so ever but I do craft and gather a lot. As far as the economy running out of Gil at some point I really don't think SE would ever allow this to happen.
All I can suggest is gather stuff to support other professions or craft and sell items on the market, I mean how long would you make it in real life with no job? I don't think a mmo should be any different.

[KoujiGeki]

Well it's kinda like real life. Gotta spend money to make money. And there will always be money to be made as long as some know how to make it and make and effort.

[PandaPause]

There is no 'gil issue'. There is a community and a society issue, where people are too lazy to work for anything. That's why China is the #1 super power on this planet, and you overweight, over-confident Americans are lagging behind in everything. Get off your ass, and go work for your money if you are broke. Economics 101 right there.

Wow, is this thread really heading into a debate of global economics and world powers? lol

[Quesse]

Lol @ gil issues. I made 400k yesterday crafting just from 10 minutes of work.

If you have full leves getting a craft from 1-50 can easily be done in ONE day so no one has any excuse. And if you bother to research which leves allow for multiple turn-ins you probably do it with less than 50 leves. At the end you're getting 400k xp per leve! Thats' right 400,000 experience point from one leve. You have no excuse not to level a craft if you want to make gil.

In fact the game practically THROWS gil at you since you don't even need HQ mats to make HQ items almost 100% of the time because of cross class abilities and paying attention to what you're doing. Basic reading skills will allow you to look up what items on the market you can HQ and sell for a profit.

When housing comes crafters are going to make an absolute killing.

[davidbowie]

Soooo many of you coming from WoW and thinking you should just be handed boatloads of gold just for playing, because that game is so terribly easy.... I would've LOVED to see all of you play FFXI. There are SOOOO MANY ways to make money in this game its not even funny. And no, it's not taking money from other players. It is generating gil.

Take 10 minutes per day off your unhealthy fixation with getting your relic, and you will be a millionaire in less then a week. If you don't know how, that's your fault for not doing the research and figuring out where the money is being made.

There is no 'gil issue'. There is a community and a society issue, where people are too lazy to work for anything. That's why China is the #1 super power on this planet, and you overweight, over-confident Americans are lagging behind in everything. Get off your ass, and go work for your money if you are broke. Economics 101 right there.

WRONG! wrong wrong

Lets get off this crap about players from wow being the lazy bunch i played both ffxi and wow you see this type of crap in both games so before you start bashing with an idiotic comment like that at least know what you are talking about it's comments like that that ruin a community, fact is you have players from ffxi who are just as bad so get off that bs.
It's easy for some of you to blame anybody who played wow for everything thats because you are the problem not the wow players so now because you can't make no money you must be a ex wow player what a crock of crap!
I crafted in both games to the max and continue to do so in this game to make a generalized comment about a group of players from one mmo just shows how weak your opinion is.

By the way players are lazy in ffxi also and buy gil they do same thing in ffxiv arr sell runs for massive amounts of gil they complain about crafting so explain how it's a wow thing.

and the argument the current system is just one player trading money to another wtf do you think a ah is in the first place the market system works fine players list the items them make or farm and get rewarded for their efforts with gil, you want a handout don't play this game already have people asking for gil in game sorry not going to happen to easy to make it.