Bard readjustment

[Kevee]

Sounds like the same thing when bards play certain songs...

-Song isn't only for us.

-Our single target turns into AoE as needed.

-It doesn't severely drop your DPS as much as you think it does, as long as you apply your DoTs properly. Cutting out 3 attacks(240, 250, and 300 potency) and replacing the 240, 250, with 80, and 300 with 150 is pretty big.

-We are the battle rezzers when needed.

-You have the skills, use them.

[LunarEmerald]

So what numbers do other classes put out?

I have full darklight and relic

About 440 DEX in a party.

my auto attack does about 130. 200 with critical.
my normal attacks (non misery's end) do in the 200 range. 300 if critical
misery's end does come to 300. close to 500 on critical.

With every buff you can have on: raging strikes, blood for blood, barrage, internal release, hawk's eye

auto attack: 200. 300 with critical
normal: 400. 500 with critical
misery's end: 500. close to 800 with critical

[Chocob0charmer]

Have you tried to run Demon Wall or Ifrit (Hardmode) with only Bard DD?
Not wholly impossible, but without a doubt harder than bringing other DD's that can limit break.

It's definitely a challenge, for anyone interested I find these two strats helpful

1. Have tank hold both gnats in top right corner (moving to the mid for poison) and have brds focus on dpsing wall. If done right the gnats aoe's wont hit the bards standing on the edge of the static poison behind them.
Only snag is the tank holding hate off the whm.

If that's the case just do this

2. Have tank hold only right gnat and have the better of your two bards stand against the wall and kill the gnat (other bard helps kill it too). Since you cant stun the bards gnat you should have the "tanking" bard run out of range for the paralysis move.

After the first gnats dead, switch to the second and then the wall.

To do this you're gonna need solid brd's but it works

[Nemhy]

lol people saying Summoner is best DPS based on parsers....ignorance

[OmegaXtc]

No changes needed, just re-roll a Bard. The whole all classes for one character design is so devs don't have to bend to the whining. And hey, this is a PvE game right now. BRD victory is your victory.

[savant07]

lol people saying Summoner is best DPS based on parsers....ignorance

You are saying something to the contrary? Do say why though...

[Xaphire]

I hate to rain on your parade, but I would hardly call the lack of a DD limit break "nothing".
Have you tried to run Demon Wall or Ifrit (Hardmode) with only Bard DD?
Not wholly impossible, but without a doubt harder than bringing other DD's that can limit break.

Why would you ever need limit break for Demon wall?

It's definitely a challenge, for anyone interested I find these two strats helpful

1. Have tank hold both gnats in top right corner (moving to the mid for poison) and have brds focus on dpsing wall. If done right the gnats aoe's wont hit the bards standing on the edge of the static poison behind them.
Only snag is the tank holding hate off the whm.

If that's the case just do this

2. Have tank hold only right gnat and have the better of your two bards stand against the wall and kill the gnat (other bard helps kill it too). Since you cant stun the bards gnat you should have the "tanking" bard run out of range for the paralysis move.

After the first gnats dead, switch to the second and then the wall.

To do this you're gonna need solid brd's but it works

If you have decently geared damage players you can just ignore the bees and burn the wall down.

[NintenPyjak64]

Why would you ever need limit break for Demon wall?



If you have decently geared damage players you can just ignore the bees and burn the wall down.

I pop my 5 offensive cooldowns and one of the bees drop like they were nothing (granted we have out melee DPS LB the other) but if both bards pop CDs and attack both bees, then they both won't stand a chance

[Bardo]

If you have decently geared damage players you can just ignore the bees and burn the wall down.

And how exactly do you get decently geared before doing AK?
Of course it's easy if you over-gear the content. That's true for any class.

[Eckoh]

all i see is people calling for the WAAAAAAAAMBULANCE cause hey are mad they are playing with bad players. Sorry but a bard that does not play songs is terrible regardless of their DPS... Not to mention if they are not smart enough to play songs they to stupid to be good DPS... simply group with better people.

This is no different then someone crying that monks are not doing enough damage because the player is to dumb to play it right so they need a buff. YOU CANNOT FIX STUPID with nerfs and buffs.