Lets Talk PLD Add Tanking

[Jayrune]

Go to your grand company and upgrade your level 35 weapon to the level 40 one. Everything will generate much more enmity, including Flash.

I think this is more important than many tanks currently realize. I have read stories of tanks succeeding and other stories of them failing while using both of the methods described in the OP, so i suspect that both are actually viable tactics and the third factor of the main hand weapon is the real determinant. All enmity generating actions are directly dependent on your main hand weapon so if it is not up-to-date it greatly reduces your ability to hold hate from a dps who has an up-to-date weapon, regardless of the specific tactics you are using.

[JazerCamacho]

Quick someone pin these to the DPS and HEALER pages so they can realise how hard Tanking really is. On topic anyone else have the issue of healers standing directly next to you mid horde while you are trying to keep them alive or mages Kiting In boss fights while you are trying to agro the adds?

[rappa]

My rotation as other tanks who wrote here:

1 - Shield lob
2 - Flash
3 - Scorn
4 - Flash
5 - Chain combo
6 - If are not a fucking caster like "Succubus" i use "Spirits withing" meanwhile the RoH is animated.
7 - target new objective, hit them until "Savage blade" change 3rd mob and use over him RoH.

At this moment, healer it's safe if not spam aoe overheal.

BLM and Bards are fucking aggro dps. If they are overgeared, i have to hold my enmity over theirs focus, using RoH chain combo and flash after Scorn it's up.

[SwordCoheir]

I noticed alot of you guys aren't utilizing non-GCD abilities inbetween your GCD weaponskills, it's really the best way to maximize hate control and DPS. Just for reference here's what I do.

Single Target:
Flash > Fight or Flight while on GCD > Fast Blade > Spirits while on GCD> Savage Blade > Circle of Scorn while on GCD > Rage of Halone.

Multi Target:
Shield Lob and wait for mobs to converge on me > Flash > Flash > Fight or Flight while on GCD > Fast Blade > Spirits while on GCD> Savage Blade > Circle of Scorn while on GCD > Rage of Halone > Flash > Rotate Hate Combo on mobs as neccessary.

[Joypad]

I think this is more important than many tanks currently realize. I have read stories of tanks succeeding and other stories of them failing while using both of the methods described in the OP, so i suspect that both are actually viable tactics and the third factor of the main hand weapon is the real determinant. All enmity generating actions are directly dependent on your main hand weapon so if it is not up-to-date it greatly reduces your ability to hold hate from a dps who has an up-to-date weapon, regardless of the specific tactics you are using.

Luckily, I learned this as I was FATE farming in Aleport. With the level 10 weapon I couldn't hold single target threat no matter what I'd use (and there really aren't many choices at 16), but switching to a better weapon did wonders.

[Soulburn32]

well im not level 50 yet so the only off GC stuff I have is defensive buffs and FoF

[katsu456]

"Shield Lob" Main target position myself so i can "Flash" > "Circle of Scorn" > "Fracture" > "Spirits Within" > "Fast Blade" > "Rampart" or "Sentinel" > "Flash" > "Savage Blade" > "Rage of Halone" > "Flash"

I will continue to use "Circle of Scorn" and "Spirits Within" when they are off CD. Always make sure to throw in a "Flash" middle of your "Fast Blade" to Halone combo.

When mana is getting below 40% its best to try and rotate in your "Riot Blade" Combo

I never do a chain combo and hit multiple targets to try and tag other targets.

As for the "Rampart" or "Sentinel" in my rotation, I personally have noticed a huge difference in Enmity gained over the mobs I'm not targeting. I don't know how it helps increase my Enmity gain or helps lowers the healers and DPS but it seems to work wonders. (If you think I'm feeding you bull I would like you to go out and try it)

[Tanaya]

It lowers the healer's enmity gain because they aren't curing you as much.

[Kuvu]

I mainly ask because I just made it to Stone Vigil and playing with 2 SMN dps was driving me crazy.

Even doing SL => Flash => Flash

By the time I made it back to the main target cycling FB => Savage =>RoH on the 3 diff targets I had already lost hate on the main target.

What your looking at is the summoners ability to spread disease. I run AK with a friend that is one and it pisses me to no end. I think i have everything lined up, do my rotation then set in to tank for a sec and i see an add run at him. It makes it hectic to say the least.

[Duelle]

It really depends. Your OP has the title Add Tanking. If you're responsible for tanking adds you can open with Flash if they spawn at the same spot, shield lob on while you're running to the other if they spawn in different spots. The main thing with adds is that you HAVE to label them and the DPS HAVE to follow the kill order. We don't have much variety for AoE (it's not like we have Thunderclap/Cleave or stun-a-pack-of-mobs-Shockwave that does decent damage and is affected by our threat modifiers) and because of that Flash does lose a bit of its luster the longer you're holding adds because you have a chance of losing the enmity game against DPS that spam AoE, not to mention the healer. Of course, you can supplement with Rage of Hallone combos, but following kill order is still key to keeping things orderly.