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  1. #21
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    Bigpurpleharness's Avatar
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hachiko View Post
    For throughput both are fine. But for the love of god WHM pull a lot of threat. I don't know what it is. I feel like half the WHM's I run with decide to cast Medica II on the pull just to troll me. On Titan, I will have threat then bam, after first tumults / stomp WHM pulls w/ 2-3 the aggro of anyone else in the party. It's ridiculous. What is up with that anyway?

    SCHs get two MP pools and two enmity pools, WHM doesn't. That's about the simplest (Though not the most accurate) way I could put it.
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  2. #22
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    Demi Fiend
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    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 50
    Cure I has a threat multiplier of 0.5x
    Cure II and II have a threat multiplier slightly higher.
    Regen seems to have no threat multiplier. Every tick of healing generates 100% threat.

    Theres a very noticeable difference in threat between a WHM that never uses regen vs. a WHM that keeps regen up on the tank throughout the entire fight. It may be their most cost efficient heal, but its also their highest threat producing move... even more than Medica I.

    Edit: Oh, I just realized why Medica II generates so much aggro... it applies a regen effect, doesn't it?
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    Last edited by Ruminate; 09-18-2013 at 11:32 PM.

  3. #23
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    Gunsa Cabalabob
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    It really depends, on certain places like cutter's cry and aurum vale WHM is better. While things like Titan sch is better. But I guess overall I prefer WHM cause they require less preparation time, if you get attacked and your scholar doesn't have it's fairy out yet you're boned might not be so much of an issue with a sch who has swift cast. But one thing I'll say for sch is I like adloquium.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 09-18-2013 at 11:27 PM.

  4. #24
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    Kaalan's Avatar
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    Kalaan Elista
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Why are we even discussing this since in every challenging content you will have 2 healer, and SCH+WHM is the best way to go anyway ?
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  5. #25
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    Ashigaru Gladespliter
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    For me i prefer Scholars, i like their shields a lot, and i get a lot of whm that seem to think chaining medica is healing then when they get insane agro and run in big circles they wonder why they die.

    Scholars are the win for me.
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  6. #26
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    RhazeCain's Avatar
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    Rhaze Cain
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Both WHM and SCH seem fine to me. Have done all the 4-man dungeons with both. Have not done a lot of HM primals or coil to comment in those situations.

    WHM does often have the higher agro. The worst ones I've seen were tough but not impossible to hold agro off of. (And by worst I'm thinking of some lvl 50 ones -- the really truly bad players were weeded out before).

    I'm playing a little 24 CNJ myself in Halatali and Toto-Rak the last couple days, so starting to see for myself the healer view of that as well. It's interesting.
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  7. #27
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    Character
    Roy Hildenbrand
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    The healer that keeps me alive is the one that I prefer. I have played with a sch and a whm and both are good as long as the player is competent. WHM does have a slight advantage as they get stoneskin and the trait for it while sch has to grind up a conj to 34 to get it. But as a tank I grinded conj to 34 to get it myself so I don't have much gripes about that.
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  8. #28
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    Glakan's Avatar
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    Golm Thedestroyer
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    Famfrit
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    Marauder Lv 23
    I always have CNJ at my level ran with mostly Scholars but yeah Healing threat is pretty big in this game I have to be carefull to grab mobs fast before the healer gets them xD
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  9. #29
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    Bayman Man
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    Adamantoise
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    Marauder Lv 50
    I dont care if its a summoner throwing heals... keep me alive and you have now become "best healer" till the next healer who can keep me alive through a run.
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Chi Shi
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    SCH when I'm on PLD since the damage reduction of PLD makes the most out of the shields (I assume). I also prefer healing PLDs on my SCH. WAR and WHM seem to work nicely together.

    Also the less threat from SCH lets me keep up with my DPS on trash pulls.
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