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    As a CUL currently in the late 30s, it is very simple to HQ every food item my level or 1-2 levels above. My current rotation:

    Step 1- Great Stride
    Step 2- If normal, Steady Hand (II if you're high enough level). If good/excellent, Standard Touch (will be Advanced when I get it).
    Step 3- Great Stride if Touch was used. Touch if it is good/excellent and was not used last turn.
    Step 4- Lather, rinse, repeat.

    It's that easy. HQ every time. Adjust to your durability, but Mend is never necessary for CUL.
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    You guys need to specify if you use HQ mats or not.

    HQing something with HQ mats is pretty much guaranteed (and seriously, if you can't there's something wrong with your gear or rotation), with some (the ones that actually give some quality) it's still easy.

    It's without HQ items that getting HQ starts being somewhat challenging on on-level recipes, and I think it's better to discuss how to do just that instead of circlejerking one another over our HQ items made with HQ mats prowess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyniea View Post
    You guys need to specify if you use HQ mats or not.

    HQing something with HQ mats is pretty much guaranteed (and seriously, if you can't there's something wrong with your gear or rotation), with some (the ones that actually give some quality) it's still easy.

    It's without HQ items that getting HQ starts being somewhat challenging on on-level recipes, and I think it's better to discuss how to do just that instead of circlejerking one another over our HQ items made with HQ mats prowess.

    True. I meant my part of the discussion, at least, to be about working from NQ mats. One word on the subject of HQ mats; if the item uses intermediate materials also made by your craft, these are usually of a lower level than the final product, and you can often start at the beginning of the production chain with NQ mats and make HQ mats for your final product. I had great success with this in making Fire Brands for a triple-triple leve, making 7 of the nine wands HQ at GLD 36, by consistently being able to synth HQ Eyes of Fire out of NQ Fire Rocks. I probably could've made them all HQ if I'd synthed my own Silver Ingots instead of using NQ ones I had in stock.
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    Last edited by Conradus; 09-20-2013 at 04:29 AM.

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    In the stat panel, you can see your control stat, at the end of a Synth it should be much higher thanks to Inner Quiet.

    This is my current record , which isn't that high considering my stats aren't optimal and I'm not using Innovation.
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    I have lvl 50 ASM/BSM/CUL, 15 in everything but WVR/GSM.

    I highly recommend for macro'in, a simply formula like the following

    Inner Peace (IP), GreatStrides (GS): [Variables] {Add Rumination in, where your CP fits it- Be mindful of Step Timed abilities!}

    - Steady hands 2 (SH-2), Waste Not (WN), Basic Touch (BT) x4 [Alternate Hasty Hands], GS, Steady Hands 2 (SH-1), Advanced Touch (AT) [Standard Touch (ST) used if low CP pool], Rapid Synth (RS). If using more expensive mats/low CP, swap out SH-2 w/ RS, with SH-1, Standard Synth (SS).

    - SH-1, ST, GS, ST, GS, ST, SH1, SS. If applicable use Ingenuity 1/2 to boost the SS/BS to finish.

    This will give a good return on HQ, and given cheap mats, will be a good enough return to at least replace shards!
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    None of this stuff works for me. I have been trying to make high quality walnut lumber. I am 42 in crafting, and have the best gear I can afford, with that said my gear is 100000000x better than it was at level 35, yet I can't get above 25% HQ on NQ items.

    Rotation

    Inner Quiet
    Great strides if not red or excellent, if red Waste, if excellent, Standard touch
    Steady hands if not red or excellent, if red or excellent steady touch
    Great Strides
    Standard touch
    Great strides
    Standard touch
    Then I am out of CP, and have to synthesis it. I am not sure how people are getting these 300CP+ Before level 40, and I am barely at 300 at level 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ogrumz View Post
    None of this stuff works for me. I have been trying to make high quality walnut lumber. I am 42 in crafting, and have the best gear I can afford, with that said my gear is 100000000x better than it was at level 35, yet I can't get above 25% HQ on NQ items.

    Rotation

    Inner Quiet
    Great strides if not red or excellent, if red Waste, if excellent, Standard touch
    Steady hands if not red or excellent, if red or excellent steady touch
    Great Strides
    Standard touch
    Great strides
    Standard touch
    Then I am out of CP, and have to synthesis it. I am not sure how people are getting these 300CP+ Before level 40, and I am barely at 300 at level 40.
    In my experience (Lv30 CRP, WVR, LTW), HQ'ing mats is pretty hit-or-miss. I average about 25% quality by the time I finish most of the 40 durability synths unless I get a lucky string of Good and Excellent.

    However, I get all my HQ from 70 durability synths, regardless of the materials I start out with, as long as I'm 5 levels above what I'm crafting. So I've given up trying to actually HQ prereqs and just work on HQ'ing the actual items I'm making.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeronic View Post
    I looked around on this thread a bit and this rotation is the best indeed. However, this is mostly for base mats, thus 40 quality. What do you guys do when you have higher quality ( 60 or 70)
    This is what I use:

    Inner Quiet
    if Good use Tricks of the Trade elseif Excellent use Standard Touch else use Great Strides
    if Good (or Excellent) use Standard Touch else use Steady Hands
    if Good (or Excellent) use Standard Touch else use Waste Not //variation here depending on if you use Master's Mend instead of Waste Not
    if Good (or Excellent) use Standard Touch

    It's what I learned from this thread, and have been pretty successful with it. I usually get an HQ item about 70% of the time if I'm crafting something my level, and about 90% if I'm crafting something 5 levels below me.
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    Last edited by Capita; 09-20-2013 at 10:05 PM.
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