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    About the Amdapor Keep's Demon Wall ninja nerfs

    Since I started playing I noticed that the second boss of Amdapor Keep, Demon Wall, received two nerf waves.

    Both made the ground areas WAY slower, and I wasn't sure about the first one (though some friends agreed with me), but the second time became way more evident: the black tri-areas on the ground are much more slower than they initially were.

    This was my favourite instance just because of this boss, I still enjoy it, but it's been greatly gimped down...

    I have some questions:
    1. Why wasn't this listed in the patch notes? This is a difficulty adjustment worth mentioning
    2. Are you planning to keep tuning down content that is OK and that the community is OK with (I didn't see any complains, just people asking for tips)?

    They said there would be no changes made to this kind of stuff, and because it worries me they start gimping everything down to ease the content (maybe PS3 players?). And what bothers me most, undocumented in the update notes.
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    Implied ninja nerfs (because you and your friends are credible) and blaming PS3 crowd. Brilliant.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vektrat View Post
    Either you can't read, or you're manipulating what I described to look cooler in the forums, whatever the reason, your comment is that of a typical troll. In fact you are not even 50 on this account so I don't even know why you try.
    Quite contrary. You are sounding quite the douche bag. You and friends perceive undocumented changes and then imply a ninja change to accomate PS3 users. You are the one trolling here. Can undocumented changes happen? Sure. Ever thought that you and your groups of friends have done Demon Wall so many times that you can run it in your sleep by now? Ever thought that maybe people are also more geared by now making it easier?

    But yeah...you stay on that high horse of yours at level 50. Keep believing in the conspiracy theories.
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    Last edited by mythicrose; 09-17-2013 at 11:35 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    Implied ninja nerfs (because you and your friends are credible) and blaming PS3 crowd. Brilliant.
    Either you can't read, or you're manipulating what I described to look cooler in the forums, whatever the reason, your comment is that of a typical troll. In fact you are not even 50 on this account so I don't even know why you try.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mythicrose View Post
    Implied ninja nerfs (because you and your friends are credible) and blaming PS3 crowd. Brilliant.
    Gamepad players DO have an huge disadvantage compared to keyboard+mouse players.
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    I haven't noticed much difference.

    I lag horribly in the fight and have learned to count in my head and move ONTO a puddle when I know it is actually supposed to have disappeared.

    Boss seems to go down easier, but I chalk that up to people being in better gear now than before.

    All in all...its a really easy fight? Its not meant to be a mechanic heavy fight. It is a dps check pure and simple, and I'm not sure even if the puddles were made "easier" why this is a bad thing.
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    I found it more enjoyable before with the faster puddles, the fight was crazy and fun
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    I guess the bosses are okay, but the entirety of amdapor is a giant sleepwalk for 10 hours a week now >.<

    So, ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

    I just want my tokens. I don't care if they nerf all bosses to be standstill fights, lol. Nothing will make amdapor less boring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    I just want my tokens. I don't care if they nerf all bosses to be standstill fights, lol. Nothing will make amdapor less boring.
    It's a shame that players are forced to get to this point; dreading a zone. Releasing only one dungeon that dropped feasible lvl 50 loot / myth tokens was a mistake.

    I'm still enjoying it personally, but have only run it 10-11 times. The demon wall is fun, but definitely way too easy. I feel like I can be oblivious to the purple slime for a second or two, move, and still have another 2-3 seconds before it actually goes off. That's way too much reaction time; they may as well remove it altogether!
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    The Demon wall and the final boss have less hp now. It might be because of the addition trash mobs added to the dungeon. Just killing the trash mobs... that drop 1 gill takes a while
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koltik View Post
    It's a shame that players are forced to get to this point; dreading a zone. Releasing only one dungeon that dropped feasible lvl 50 loot / myth tokens was a mistake.

    I'm still enjoying it personally, but have only run it 10-11 times. The demon wall is fun, but definitely way too easy. I feel like I can be oblivious to the purple slime for a second or two, move, and still have another 2-3 seconds before it actually goes off. That's way too much reaction time; they may as well remove it altogether!
    Yes, I agree with you! Also I haven't done amdapor this week yet (maybe they did nerf it!) But on Sunday I was still having to react almost instantly to not get goo'd.
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