Vanity slot restriction concerns.....

[Itchyness]

I just want to use DoH/DoL gear as vanity. Some of the outfits looks straight badass and away from the "oh, you have a red/white robe, you must be a WHM" kind of outfit. Diversity usually brings people together and will make the game much deeper in the community sense imo. I think ive seen a weaver's outfit(?) that strongly resembles a pirate and a miner(?) that resembles a boxer/martial artist (minus monk gear obviously)

[TohruHonda]

I can't believe so many people care about playing dress up with their characters. Why can't you people just be happy with the gear you're supposed to be in and stop demanding such nonsense from SE? When they finally cave after all your crying, we are probably gonna see people tanking Titan with Weaver AF and people running around in pink and yellow Darklight sets. Yay.

[Bane766]

NO! I don't want any restrictions. What is the point of seasonal gear if I can't get any use out of it? And all these other restrictions, you may as well not even have it. No. No restrictions!

[Tsalmaveth]

Snip.

It's a ROLE PLAYING GAME... MMORPG. That means people like to... I don't know... ROLE PLAY? There are all kinds of play styles out there... yours is 'if it has the stats I need, I don't care what it looks like'. That's fine. It works for you and you're happy. Then there are people like me... and most of them in this thread. "I need the stats because I want to play well, but I care about my CHARACTER(even have an RP wiki...) and how they look. I also enjoy a diverse looking world and everyone running around end game looking like carbon copies is boring." This, too, is a perfectly fine and valid play-style. And, frankly put, if no other MMORPGs out there had vanity slots, I might admit that it would be asking a lot to have them in. Considering almost EVERY MMORPG out right now has them in one capacity or another... the only 'problem' I see here is that SE didn't address it as part of the revamp from the beginning. They were MORE than aware that people wanted them... But I do understand the time limits and stresses they have to deal with, so I'm simply happy that we are getting them.


And, while I'm more lore-minded when it comes to appearance, I don't see how it is MY right, or YOURS, to tell people what APPEARANCE they should have when they want to play the game. As long as their stats and abilities match up to the encounter it isn't any of your business what they want to wear visually for it.

[Lelouch001]

I can't believe so many people care about playing dress up with their characters. Why can't you people just be happy with the gear you're supposed to be in and stop demanding such nonsense from SE? When they finally cave after all your crying, we are probably gonna see people tanking Titan with Weaver AF and people running around in pink and yellow Darklight sets. Yay.

Maybe because the gear all looks like the same crap and most of the armors looks dull and boring. I can't believe you're against people wanting to look like they're not in a clone factory. Deal with it.

[Riko_113]

I think maybe you're referring to the accessories?

If I remember correctly, all caster gear have the DoM classification while all physical DD gear have the DoW classification. I don't think there are caster gear (i.e. with INT/MND and no STR/DEX) that has the all-classes classification.

Nope, he's correct. Almost all caster gear in the game is "All classes". Hell, half of all the rewards from quests give either the choices of "DoW gear, Tank Gear, All Classes" Or "Tank gear, DoW gear, food buff for casters".

It's a pain in the ass.

[ArcheustheWise]

THINGS THAT SHOULD NOT BE RESTRICTED PERIOD (IMO):

Using field (crafting/gathering) clothes for combat classes: Its not uncommon to see official RPG characters wearing casual clothing over combat savy gear. A ton of players will want to emulate this trend.

"Field" gear is the richest source of causal clothing. For the mage that doesn't want robes or the tank that doesn't want to clunk around in plate mail field gear will be the easiest way to dress in something more "general clothing" in theme. So please allow using crafting/gathering clothes for combat class costumes.

I agree with this the most. I seriously hope they arent restricting me that i cant wear my fisherman hat..... id be pissed...

[Enkidoh]

I can understand the concerns about immersion breaking, but this will always happen in an MMO - not everyone is concerned with immersion. Even now you could grab the 2nd starting racial gear (some of which are a horrific, lime color), mix and match it with coliseum gear and slap on one of those GOD AWFUL looking fluffy mittens you get in the lower levels (died another awful color) and the result is an absolute, immersion-breaking eyesore.

I say this as an avid RPer for whom immersion is important: we will ignore what breaks our immersion. You have to, because you can't control other players. As for dungeons, I can't even count how many tanks I've run dungeons with wearing bright, pastel pink all over their armor lol

For that reason, I don't think there should be any restrictions outside of being unable to slot gear into vanity that your toon could not actually wear (which thankfully YoshiP already said would be in place)

I'm sorry for digging this out from several pages back, but what do you mean by 'second starting racial gear'? As far as I was aware the only set of racial-only gear you could get was the actual starting armour all characters start with (and which can be purchased again from a specific vendor) - and just to make sure I went searching on Gamerescape and the FFXIVWiki for any information about such a hypothetical second RSE set and came up empty. So I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.

As for the vanity slot restrictions, I think the idea of mages not wearing heavy armour is a legacy of role-playing's pen and paper origins (ala, Dungeons and Dragons), as the late Gary Gygax basically was the one who came up with that idea of mages being restricted to not wearing heavy armour 'which could be distracting while casting', or healers 'not being able to wield edged weapons which spill blood'. It's an old RPG standby which MMOs, as the closest to a pen-and-paper RPG in style, find very hard to completely shake off, even when it's just for vanity slots and not an actual part of gameplay. Or at least, that's what it seems to me.

[Lafiele]

Restrictions to class specific gear is very reasonable. Afterall, why should gear wore by another class, worked for by another class, be crossable to another if you can't wear it. i.e. DoL to DoW classes. I'm fine with vanity slots just working for gear of the same class.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

I'm sorry for digging this out from several pages back, but what do you mean by 'second starting racial gear'? As far as I was aware the only set of racial-only gear you could get was the actual starting armour all characters start with (and which can be purchased again from a specific vendor) - and just to make sure I went searching on Gamerescape and the FFXIVWiki for any information about such a hypothetical second RSE set and came up empty. So I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what you're talking about.
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Perhaps he's talking about the 'underwear' from 1.0 that's available to purchase from those same vendors?