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    Quote Originally Posted by Xatsh View Post
    Man I wish SE would just tell us exactly what is being added and how they are planning on it working... would stop these debates before they even happen >.>
    Don't worry. We are working on turning Yoshida into a Tanaka soon enough. There's a reason Tanaka did what he wanted and ignored the players. Yoshi will learn this lesson also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Don't worry. We are working on turning Yoshida into a Tanaka soon enough. There's a reason Tanaka did what he wanted and ignored the players. Yoshi will learn this lesson also.
    I wouldn't have agreed with you if i hadn't spent 5 minutes reading these forums. >.>
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    Mid-june at the earliest.
    To see the START of battle changes.
    Still no signs of companies outside of lodestone lore.

    epic failure all around
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    Quote Originally Posted by RexSkyborn View Post
    Mid-june at the earliest.
    To see the START of battle changes.
    Still no signs of companies outside of lodestone lore.

    epic failure all around
    read again, grand company dungeon is coming at mid-may.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    There's also many other better casual friendly MMOs, and pretty much ZERO hardcore MMOs. Do we really need more? This is like there being 9000 different types of mc donalds or burger kings or taco bells. We already have a taco bell every 5 minutes, do we really need 17 more taco bells inbetween those, just called different things?
    You are talking about multimillion projects MMO here, it's kinda of stupid if you only want to cater for minority.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    read again, grand company dungeon is coming at mid-may.
    No, its not.

    "Come mid-May, the vanguards of the Grand Companies will be the first to brave Eorzea’s newly discovered dungeons. Their preliminary reports will be made available on the Grand Companies page on the Lodestone, so be sure to check it out!"

    the VANGUARDS are getting the first look at the new dungeons, and they're going to post their 'reports' of on the lodestone in the grand companies section. basically just more lore and hints at what to expect in the dungeons. No dungeons mid may.
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    I am in no way saying I don't want low level content, I LOVE low level content and encourage them to add it! I just don't like them copy/pasting the same thing from other games.
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    Amazingly not everyone is rank 50 in multiple jobs, many have either RL responsibilities that limit their available playtime and quite a few people got bored with the game and left. Those screaming for "End Game" content (at level 50 as if it's the end all be all cap) I am assuming you think that content should be developed only for those at max rank and everyone else just needs to grind out and do things like intentionally fail leves for MAX SP gains.

    It would be nice to have little quests or battle areas to collect gear along the way without having to hit max rank to basically "start" the real game.

    Interesting idea to keep these dungeons relevant, I imagine they will be taking the rank to 75 at least. Similar to Salvage gear you could possibly collect special pieces that will be decent for their intended rank and maybe once you have the 30-50-75 pieces they could be combined into an ultimate piece of gear.

    As for the quest hubs, didn't every single one of us ask for the zones to have more character, encampments, small villages perhaps some old ruins? This seems to be a step in that direction, for all we know it could very well operate similar to Campaign. The encampments could come under attack as well as they could send you out on Company related battle missions to assault a beastmen stronghold. In times of war you don't just have your base set up in town, you need to spread out to meet your enemy before they get that close.

    I also see that they have gardens of a sort and crafting facilities so the DoH and DoL jobs can lend a hand to keeping battle operations running smoothly
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    It's also stupid if you constantly try to steal people from other games that do what you're trying to do tons better.

    @ Wobi, if you played this game since release and don't have a 50, you have no excuse really. Doing leves(2-3 hours per 36 hours at most) will get you 1-50 in a month or so. I also want content for ALL levels, but I don't understand why we NEED dungeons, of all content to add, at low levels.

    We. do. not. need. to. copy. WOW. to. be. successful.

    -_________- I want to drill this into some MMO devs mind sometime, maybe that will finally make a MMO that isn't a WOW clone exist...

    edit: I like the "combing low level dungeon gear to get good gear like salvage" idea. THAT is unique and cool.
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    Last edited by Shiyo; 05-02-2011 at 04:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiyo View Post
    @ Wobi, if you played this game since release and don't have a 50, you have no excuse really. Doing leves(2-3 hours per 36 hours at most) will get you 1-50 in a month or so. I also want content for ALL levels, but I don't understand why we NEED dungeons, of all content to add, at low levels.

    We. do. not. need. to. copy. WOW. to. be. successful.

    -_________- I want to drill this into some MMO devs mind sometime, maybe that will finally make a MMO that isn't a WOW clone exist...

    edit: I like the "combing low level dungeon gear to get good gear like salvage" idea. THAT is unique and cool.
    While I'm glad you appreciate my idea, my excuse for not having a rank 50 is that I'm trying to keep a fairly even spread of my jobs with the limited playtime my job affords me. There are plenty of reasons to have engaging content before you hit max rank. They could also be level capped so when new or returning players come along anyone could join the fun in running the quest/mission/battle with them.

    SE is a business, they sort of make games to make money so their employees can keep roofs over their heads and food in their bellies. They have to take into account the entire player base. The so-called hardcores running about this forum have dwindled into a niche group. I like many others just don't have the amount of time to dedicate that we used to and it's nice to be able to make some progress if you only have a few hours a day. There are a great deal many more people in that boat than those who can literally play the entire day ( which I do on occasion on the weekends if I can get away with it).

    You seem determined to bring back the glory days of Uber-Elitest FFXI days, when people would be kicked from parties for not parsing high enough or never get an invite as they weren't the right job or didn't have the most perfect gear. Where people would literally sit there and talk smack at each other for hours waiting for a HMN to pop at 5am in the morning NA time. People would be regularly ridiculed for trying anything new that deviated from what became the standard way to play the game. Where your LS commanded as much of your time as your RL job if not more. I know these are the things the "hardcore" crowd get off on and I have to ask, do we really need that again? Wasn't 8+ years of that enough for you?
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