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  1. #11
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    Fhorte Dakwhil
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    Since bard is support, not healing, they should have had an AoE LB like Offensive magic gets, but that does status effects to enemies and/or buffs to allies in the area (targeted, and amount of each and how strong depending on the LB level)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayo View Post
    BRD is not support. Three very situational practically useless abilities among a ton of DPS do not not make BRD a support class. There isnt even a 'support' role in Duty Finder! BRD's are DPS or DD ... whatever you want to call it.
    Actually BRD is support, they have 3 buffs, 1attack, and 1boost for their buffs. Any other skill is from Pugilist or Archer (which are both dd classes).
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    Last edited by ForteXX; 09-18-2013 at 12:29 AM.

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    Atriese Lolo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykloned View Post
    You do realize if us BRDs were given a DPS LB, that there would be literally no point in bringing MNK or DRG? We have the easiest positioning/movement mechanics during dungeons/HM encounters and our support mechanics are always good especially with a fellow WHM. Thus, we don't really need heals (assuming that BRD is a decent player), and can pull out great burst and letting our heals literally only heal the tank(s).

    What SE really needs to do, is integrate a way to prevent more than 2 of the of the same job entering 8 man DF's. Saying BRDs should just get a DPS LB doesn't really solve the problem, in fact it creates more.
    THere is no poin in bringin MNK or DRG now... because All you need is SMN or BLK
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  3. #13
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    I think the bard's LB is perfectly spot on, keep in mind that if a party needs a healing limit it means that either the healers are dead or they are in deep shit and can't stop healing for a sec and the LB casting time is quite long, so having a support job doing it is the way to go. Honestly most of the time I've seen that LB it was done by a bard and I myself have saved a few pugs from a wipe with it.
    And don't forget that using a limit is optional, you can complete every fight without using any LB.
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    Ara Myth
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    Limit Breaks should be something more than just a one button press from 1 group member anyway.

    We should active the limit break and have each group member have to perform an action (of some kind) in various sequences to get the effects you want such as damage or healing.
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    Faeldi Chantelune
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    That thread again ....

    Current LB for bard is VERY good for end game. It should never be changed.
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    Kayo Vedo
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    AoE LB?

    Anything other than healing would be great. Healing Wind for a DPS job is among the top 5 dumbest design decisions ive seen in any MMO. So much so I think the issue was somehow never even brought up since ARR development started. Because no designer worth paying a minimum wage could possibly, and consciously, make this decision to leave it as is.

    Quote Originally Posted by ForteXX View Post
    Since bard is support, not healing, they should have had an AoE LB like Offensive magic gets, but that does status effects to enemies and/or buffs to allies in the area (targeted, and amount of each and how strong depending on the LB level)
    BRD is not support. Three very situational practically useless abilities among a ton of DPS do not not make BRD a support class. There isnt even a 'support' role in Duty Finder! BRD's are DPS or DD ... whatever you want to call it.
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    Last edited by Kayo; 09-17-2013 at 11:35 PM.

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    Reika Shadowheart
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    Look I don't even play bard, and never will, but giving a DPS class a healers LB is retarded. you will ALWAYS have a healer in the party for healer LB, but you may, as said, get stuck with no melee dps and no magic dps, meaning no attack LB.
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  8. #18
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    Imbrial Osis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    Look I don't even play bard, and never will, but giving a DPS class a healers LB is retarded. you will ALWAYS have a healer in the party for healer LB, but you may, as said, get stuck with no melee dps and no magic dps, meaning no attack LB.
    Yeah, I don't really get it either. You will always have a healer, and always a tank, so giving either of those to Bard is redundant. On the other hand, you won't always have single target and AOE damage LB's, so it definitely seems like a weird decision to me.
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  9. #19
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Bard doesn't need offensive limit break.

    It's Archer that need Ranger as a branched job with offensive limit break.
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    Sentinel Guardian
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    I agree, BRD needs AoE LB. Healing LB is pointless, there will always be a healer and a tank.
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