Monks very weak. Need rebalance

[Onyxys]

Greetings. I think, that monks are the weakest DPS class in the game. For example my critical hits on level 50 with GC-weapon and some DL gear are almost always beyond 300 (260-280). Dragoons make much more damage and have very good AoE- monk not. Yes, I know about Dragon kick and Greeased lightning and yes- Im playing only monk and know this class rather good. So, I want developers rebalance monks and some of their skills- for example skill "Shoulder Tackle" is very stupid and unusable because of it LONG cool down and stupid condition of use. Thank you

[Skies]

Shoulder Tackle is godly, what are you talking about, it saves you a good ten seconds of running around every time you use, often saving you a stack of Greased Lightning.
And don't think that your weaker hits are any lesser to the damage of a Dragoon, certainly you're not pulling 700 damage on a hit like they do, but in the time I do one of those hits you can easily pull of two hits of 350, you attack fast, very fast. Your DPS comes out of sheer consistency and rapid damage, different from the Dragoon whose DPS comes from slower and stronger blows.

And yes i've played both

[Pwnagraphic]

Only thing I agree with you on is the Shoulder Tackle. I remember seeing that we would all get a ranged attack of some kind, and by we all I mean every job/ class, and shoulder tackle isn't what I expected. It's cool as hell and I love beginning a battle with it, but I think a chakra, or a throwing weapon would be cool for a Monk to have.

As for DPS, if you set your rotation right, you can be critting/ attacking for 200+-300+ each hit. That's where Monks get their DPS from. It's a constant flow of damage. Dragoon is all burst, but Monk is just bambambambambambambambam...


I can tell you this.. When my FC has me in on fights with Garuda, or Titan, or DPS is sky high. I just know how to play my class to make sure my DPS is in a constant flow and that's by making sure my Skill speed is priority.

[MartyMcfly]

Monk problems are not related to the literal damage we put out. There is no problem there.

We are a class that deals death by a million pin pricks.

[Onyxys]

Monk problems are not related to the literal damage we put out. There is no problem there.
We are a class that deals death by a million pin pricks.

Yes. A million little damage pricks, which marauder or lancer can do in one blow and they doesnt need to stack any buffs- just hit and no problem. And they dont need to "dance" around enemy- 3 hit lancer combo is the best thing. Monk doest have any good AoE and have little solo-damage. When arena will be open you will see what "trash" are monks

As for DPS, if you set your rotation right, you can be critting/ attacking for 200+-300+ each hit
Dont be funny. Each hit)))

[ElaintheShy]

Yes. A million little damage pricks, which marauder or lancer can do in one blow and they doesnt need to stack any buffs- just hit and no problem. And they dont need to "dance" around enemy- 3 hit lancer combo is the best thing. Monk doest have any good AoE and have little solo-damage. When arena will be open you will see what "trash" are monks

As for DPS, if you set your rotation right, you can be critting/ attacking for 200+-300+ each hit
Dont be funny. Each hit)))

DRG actually do need to stack buffs to hit high, Heavy Thrust, Disembowel, Life Surge (whatever its called), Blood for Blood, i need all those to get a sure 800 crit on top of being in the 3rd part of my potency rotation.

and to get heavy thrust and disembowel we do have to dance around enemies, play the class..

[Sudboyz]

Yes. A million little damage pricks, which marauder or lancer can do in one blow and they doesnt need to stack any buffs- just hit and no problem. And they dont need to "dance" around enemy- 3 hit lancer combo is the best thing. Monk doest have any good AoE and have little solo-damage. When arena will be open you will see what "trash" are monks

As for DPS, if you set your rotation right, you can be critting/ attacking for 200+-300+ each hit
Dont be funny. Each hit)))

2 hits of 350 in the time it takes a dragoon to do 1 hit of 700 is the same DPS.

PVE and PVP DPS are different. The raw DPS numbers are king in PvE, but in PvP, the burst will win out. You are only right about monks being bad in PvP. A "good" monk in PvE will be near the top of the charts. So l2p.

[Beacham]

If you think we don't have ANY AoE, youre retarded. Rockbreaker fits into the rotation and can be abused with perfect balance+internal release. Howling fist is also INSANE - I just wish the CD was lower. (Quoted from first page)

One Ilm punch has SO much room for improvement in the future. Out DoT's are pretty nice.

Crits all day with super fast attack speed, plus buffs, plus enemy debuff.


The ONLY thing I would want to change is the GL falloff. It should fall from 3 to 2 to completely off.

[neoreturn]

The ONLY thing I would want to change is the GL falloff. It should fall from 3 to 2 to completely off.

Agree 3to2 to 1 degrading is making more sense.

[Pappasquirrel]

I see a lot of "But you have to move around and stuff" arguments and all I get from that is "Ugh I have to work to be good :'(" The MNK DMG is fine, i'd argue great even. But regardless

We are a class that deals death by a million pin pricks.

and IMHO that's ALOT more fun than standing around waiting to poke something with a stick (no offence jus makin' a point)