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  1. #1
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    savant07's Avatar
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    Ashen Valanar
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    Lamia
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Schtick View Post
    Double black mage in AK. Demon wall (the only boss you could possibly be talking about being hard on mages). Dead before bees spawned. Personally pushed well over 200dps and am not in full darklight nor do I have a relic.

    Doing good damage as a mage requires that you pre-emptively position yourself and think ahead about how to get the most casts given any bosses rotation / mechanics.
    Don't let Dunken-Krueger get you down on the class. Figure out what you can do to improve your own game. Reap the benefits.
    Problem is. Pretty sure you can down it faster with a summoner or bard. I'm not saying black mage is weak, I'm just saying they do less than summoners or bards and those classes excel in movement intensive fights as well.
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    Schtick Zymotic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by savant07 View Post
    Problem is. Pretty sure you can down it faster with a summoner or bard. I'm not saying black mage is weak, I'm just saying they do less than summoners or bards and those classes excel in movement intensive fights as well.
    Don't get me wrong. As a blm main, I would love a buff to blm.
    However, I'm afraid I have to humbly disagree.
    I've had no trouble keeping up with bards / summoners of equal gear. However, I'll admit circumstantial evidence is.... circumstantial.
    Still, I've seen no evidence to indicate blm is behind overall.

    I'd like to see the numbers.
    Given bard will excel at movement intensive fights (no demon wall doesn't qualify), and brings some essential utility (think coils turn 2), BLM should bring more basic dps to the table.
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    BLM dps is fine. Bard DPS is too CONVENIENT. Stop wanting to be like the top DPS classes -- those are usually the classes that need to be toned down.
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    Jordie Akiyama
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    Ultros
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Any blm that has done titan will feel we don't belong on high mobility fights. I'm leveling a summoner cause almost all the gear is interchangeable aside from af, and I'll do better dps on mobility fights. Sure I hate the fact that blms are so relient on just not moving, but at the same time I can provide more utility by learning 2 classes.
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    Crescent Dusk
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Jordie View Post
    Any blm that has done titan will feel we don't belong on high mobility fights. I'm leveling a summoner cause almost all the gear is interchangeable aside from af, and I'll do better dps on mobility fights. Sure I hate the fact that blms are so relient on just not moving, but at the same time I can provide more utility by learning 2 classes.
    Good luck with tombs, can't dot them while a blm in two globals wipes out half a tomb's health.
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    Vicas Windwalker
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    Lamia
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    It seems more like they need to make BRD more complex then to buff BLM. BRD just seems brain dead easy to play.
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    Inu Akurei
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    I'm actually usually top dps in my parties as BLM. The only time someone's even come close to me was a relic BRD in one of my AK runs. Also during one or two of my Garuda HM fights when the other dps could keep up with me, we downed Garuda incredibly fast, right after her 2nd spawn of adds.

    Currently BRD is the highest DPS so yes your better geared BRD will do more than your BLM, but I think this is more of a problem of BRD being op than anything else being underpowered (except maybe monk, they just need a greased lighting duration increase I think). Currently BRD beats everything. so it's a bit unfair to judge BLM, or anything really, against a BRD.

    (PS. Just to add, I have a 50BRD and 50BLM as well, and my BLM dps's circles around my BRD. But my BRD isn't very geared.)
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    Last edited by Inuakurei; 09-17-2013 at 07:39 AM.

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    BlackRoach's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Character
    Light Roach
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Only beef I have with BLM is that Flare sucks. Either make it higher dmg, or cost less MP. I really don't understand why the amount of MP I have doesn't effect Flares dmg. If I blow 3000MP on a flare, I would think it would do considerably more dmg but it does the same as when I have 300MP
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    Aleph One
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    "Buffed up" is a tautology; just use "buffed".
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    Hitaru Hotaru
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    Malboro
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    BLM are fine.
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