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    My Scholar Hotbar Crosshotbar Setup (Controller)

    So in some threads I've seen people seem to have trouble setting up the Scholar hotbars with a controller, saying they need to drop abilities they don't need, or aren't sure how to set it up so it works well.

    I've been using a controller for a pretty long time, and I've gotten it to a point where it's very comfortable, so maybe it can help some folks.



    So to start with R2, Square is Physick and X is Embrace. This is so I can spam click X and have Eos constantly heal, and when I need to pump up the heals, spam X and Square at the same time.

    Adlo and Succor are on the same set, to have your main heals all clustered together.


    My most commonly used abilities are on the R2 D-Pad. This actually shares a similar setup as my WHM so its easy to swap between healers.

    Lustrate on Up and Aetherflow on Right. Down is Whispering Dawn macro'd with Rouse. That is the one concession I had to make, not giving Rouse it's own button. On the Left is Cleric's Stance, macro'd to switch my hotbar to Crosshotbar 2. Here are the macros if you're curious:

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    /micon "whispering dawn" pet Eos
    /ac "rouse"
    /pac "whispering dawn"

    and

    /micon "cleric stance"
    /ac "cleric stance"
    /chotbar change 2
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    On the L2 side, X, Square, Triangle, and Circle are my less used abilities that I still need quick access to. X is Fey Illumination (healing buff), Square is my Energy Drain macro'd to <t> <tt> so I can get some MP back without switching targets. Triangle is Stoneskin and Circle is Leeches. Pretty simple.

    The D-Pad buttons are basically all mitigation. Sacred Soil, Virus with <t> <tt> macros, Eye for an Eye, and Fey Covenant.


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    /micon "virus"
    /ac "virus" <t>
    /ac "virus" <tt>
    /p Virus used on <tt>
    <se.7>
    ___________________________________________________________

    /micon "energy drain"
    /ac "energy drain" <tt>
    /ac "energy drain" <t>
    ___________________________________________________________




    Now here's the key for me, and ease of access - Enable the L2+R2 and R2+L2 combination. It opens up a full extra hotbar without actually switching, which can get messy in the heat of battle.



    Swiftcast (Left on D pad) and Resurrection (Up) are as close to each other as possible so I can get them both off quickly. I also like having my pets close to Swiftcast, because who has the time to cast it?

    Protect (Triangle) is here because I don't use it often but still want access to it, Sprint (X) I use all the freaking time, Limit Break (Circle) is again ease of access, and Sustain is just in case (Square)




    R2+L2 abilities

    Mount Roulette (Right) and Teleport (Square) are in that spot on every one of my characters. Don't know why, I just had some extra spots in an area where I don't really use very often.

    I use Heel and Place all the time, the others not so much, but when you need access to them it's great to have.



    This is Hotbar 2. It's usually only accessed by using my Cleric Stance macro that auto-swaps for me.

    The entire R2 side is very similar to my healing hotbar, in case I need to pump out some emergency heals on myself solo, or the party while I'm DPSing. Embrace is awesome to have here because it's not affected by Cleric's, but Physick isn't as useful, but still nice to have. Lustrate it essential to have access to while DPSing.

    The only thing of note on the R2 side is another Cleric Stance macro, this time to switch back to Hotbar 1. If you want to make that macro, use the earlier one but literally just change the "2" to a "1" in a new macro.

    L2, basically what ever works for you. This part I basically just threw together.



    And that's it! Pretty simple with just a few tricks to make things easier. No abilities overlooked, and everything is in easy access. The only problem I've ever had is with the Cleric Stance macro - if you press it while the ability is still on cooldown to switch out of Cleric's, it'll still change hotbars. So you could be set to your healer hotbar while in Cleric Stance and not realize it. So, it may not be perfect, but it's a very comfortable setup for me.

    Hope it helps some people! If I wasn't clear about something or you have some other questions, I'll be happy to help.
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    Last edited by peaches; 03-24-2015 at 06:13 AM.

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    Ohh nice set-up

    I like my set-up too, it's pretty different but what I NEED to do is move Sprint somewhere more accessible. Honestly it's in a terrible place but I couldn't think of where to put it..... seeing where you have it though gives me a few ideas.

    (I wanna post my sch hotbars but I don't wanna usurp your thread, either.)
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    That is a thing of beauty nice set-up. I've always thought the /chotbar command sounded neat, but I don't really have a use for it on the PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    Ohh nice set-up

    I like my set-up too, it's pretty different but what I NEED to do is move Sprint somewhere more accessible. Honestly it's in a terrible place but I couldn't think of where to put it..... seeing where you have it though gives me a few ideas.

    (I wanna post my sch hotbars but I don't wanna usurp your thread, either.)
    By all means, post it here! I'm sure mine isn't perfect, and besides I always like seeing other people's setups!



    Quote Originally Posted by DarkerOrange View Post
    That is a thing of beauty nice set-up. I've always thought the /chotbar command sounded neat, but I don't really have a use for it on the PC.
    I actually have a pretty novel use for it for M/KB as well Of course it's not /chotbar , it's /hotbar, but still.

    It uses three vertical hotbars beside the party menu, to the left of it. The left one is hidden in 4 man (if I didn't I'd have to use 4 hotbars, and I didn't have an extra to spare). The right one in 4 man shows 5 buttons - the top one is a picture of Leeches that when clicked, makes the left bar visible, and changes the right bar to 8 icons. The icons all have targets from <1> to <8> so I can just click the icon and use Leeches on a party member without targeting them. When the left bar appears, its the same thing, but macro'd to Swiftcast+Resurrection.

    I'll see if I can make a gif of it and I'll edit this post!

    *Edit*

    Okay well its small and bad quality, but its my first gif, so it'll have to do! I don't know how to directly imbed gifs, so here's a link!

    http://i.imgur.com/B4Khp24.gifv
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    Last edited by peaches; 03-24-2015 at 06:55 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    I'll see if I can make a gif of it and I'll edit this post!
    Oooh I hope you can because that sounds really cool......
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    Here is my set-up:
    DISCLAIMER: I macro all my attacks with <t>,<f>,<tt> in that order. I don't highly suggest it because it does cut down your DPS pew-pew, but I'm slowly weaning myself off it, haha. The reason I did it was so I could target my party but still be able to attack since I used to be (and still am, really) terrible at stance-dancing and targeting quickly. I'm improving though...

    DISCLAIMER 2: I have my button settings are D-pad on the left and buttons on the right. It's the alternate setting in the options. It just makes more sense to me, to have the buttons displaying on the side of the controller I'm actually using. (If you still don't know how it works, change the setting in-game for a minute and try it out.)

    You may notice the rightmost three buttons are the same for each set. That's because Ruin, Physick, and Adlo are my most used actions and I gladly sacrifice bar space to have easy access to them at all times.

    I don't have any fancy switch macro; I used to but I found that it hindered me more than it helped me I just use the standard RB/RB hold+color buttons to switch hotbars quickly.

    CBar 1:

    This is my DPS bar. Embrace is macro'd with itself, ahah, for before when you couldn't interrupt your fairy. Whispering Dawn is macro'd the same way, for the same reason (they seemed to have changed it though.. so. IDK)
    Shadow Flare has Swiftcast on it so I can cast it quickly.
    None of my own heals are macro'd at all.
    All the DOTs are together (except one....) I use Miasma II quite often. (I bet tanks hate me because I run right up to them and cast it. Ha.)
    The icon next to Embrace and WD is my place/heel macro. I click it once, I can set the place area I want my fairy to go to. If I press it again, she'll return to me (and I can still place her again if needed). Very nice.

    CBar 2:

    This is my heal bar. The left icon is for /focustarget because there isn't one naive in the game somewhere???? Why??????? I couldn't find one, so I made one.
    All the heals that use Aetherflows are together so I can find them quickly.
    Ruin 2 is replaced by Succor in this set. Embrace and the Place macro stay. WD is replaced by Sustain but I may switch it in the future...hm.

    CBar 3:

    This is the fairy/extra bar. It used to be really empty but it filled up. The fairy attacks are all macro'd so that I can use them with either Selene or Eos (has Eos' icons though since I use her more often).
    Protect is down here since it's rarely used (besides if someone dies or at the beginning of a dungeon ofc).
    Unmacroed Swiftcast just in case.
    Macro'd fairy summons so I can set them to obey immediately. (Also has Swiftcast because I'm impatient).
    The fairy attacks were all in the same group but I found I really needed Sprint somewhere more accessible, and since it's assigned to LT-Y, I can easily a)switch my set to this one and b) cast Sprint while running. I couldn't do it before because it was located on the D-pad.
    Also Succor here because if I'm down here for longer than a sprint press the party probably needed Succor anyway......


    Anyway that's it. Not perf but it works for me.
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    Awe i wish I could share mine too, but sadly I'm stuck on ps3 no pictures to capture, unless anyone knows a way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    Awe i wish I could share mine too, but sadly I'm stuck on ps3 no pictures to capture, unless anyone knows a way?
    Don't you just press start and the PS button at the same time?
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    Somewhat offtopic, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by AskaRay View Post
    [..]

    I use Miasma II quite often. (I bet tanks hate me because I run right up to them and cast it. Ha.)
    Assuming single-targets and boss fights as well: I wouldn't hate you for it if I were tanking, I would just be curious why you would be dumping a GCD into a 70 potency skill when you could have been Ruin spamming (or better yet, Ruin II + bookwhacking). However, if you did it on a trash pull, I would high five you.

    Then again, I see single-target Miasma II pretty often even from career-SCHs. Only worth it to cast it on multiple targets, never on single-target. (For SMNs it becomes 120 potency with Contagion, we naturally do not have that as SCHs).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquil View Post
    Somewhat offtopic, but...


    Assuming single-targets and boss fights as well: I wouldn't hate you for it if I were tanking, I would just be curious why you would be dumping a GCD into a 70 potency skill when you could have been Ruin spamming (or better yet, Ruin II + bookwhacking). However, if you did it on a trash pull, I would high five you.

    Then again, I see single-target Miasma II pretty often even from career-SCHs. Only worth it to cast it on multiple targets, never on single-target. (For SMNs it becomes 120 potency with Contagion, we naturally do not have that as SCHs).
    I do it all the time on both single target and group pulls. While it may not be as good as a few Ruins, it is extra damage happening while I switch out of Cleric Stance to get back to healing. I find by the time I get in Shadow Flare + 3 main dots + Miasma II somebody is in need of heals. Extra damage without actively casting is fantastic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    I do it all the time on both single target and group pulls. While it may not be as good as a few Ruins, it is extra damage happening while I switch out of Cleric Stance to get back to healing. I find by the time I get in Shadow Flare + 3 main dots + Miasma II somebody is in need of heals. Extra damage without actively casting is fantastic.
    It isn't as good as a single ruin. Run 2 is instant cast and does more damage than Miasma 2. Single target the gcd is still better used on Ruin 2.
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