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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaize View Post
    You failed to log in and pick a server weeks upon weeks before Phase 4, and thats SE's Service issues?! You failing to bother to log in and hit a button is THEIR Fault? lol...I admit SE have many problems, but this is yours not theres blaming them for your incompetence invalidates any rightful information that goes before the last sentence!
    1.0 players are far from the only ones in this situation. Worlds filled up. People couldn't create characters on them. Their options were limited by service restrictions, and some were only eligible to join JP servers. Others had friends from 1.0 who didn't watch the FFXIV twitter during the game's several month hiatus for the ninja notice about transfers only being available in the middle of beta, months before launch. Those people had to choose between playing alone on NA servers, or playing with their friends on JP servers, assuming they were lucky enough to buy the game before sales were halted, and create their accounts before the rest of the masses filled everything up. Yes, I'd call these service issues.

    Agree or disagree however, it's kind of hard to justify the lack of equal communication to all players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaize View Post
    You failed to log in and pick a server weeks upon weeks before Phase 4, and thats SE's Service issues?! You failing to bother to log in and hit a button is THEIR Fault? lol...I admit SE have many problems, but this is yours not theres blaming them for your incompetence invalidates any rightful information that goes before the last sentence!
    Love this argument. "You weren't following the game everyday until launch, then when you log into a JP server and you can't transfer you complain? You're dumb!" I'm sorry. I really can't see where you're coming from. Sure all the fanboys from 1.0 would be following the game very closely and wouldn't miss a beat. Everyone else didn't care enough about beta from 1.0, probably because we played 'beta' for years, and were waiting for launch/P4 before checking the game out and making a choice to play or not. Did I get a server transfer email? Yea I'm pretty sure I did some where back in June or something. Did I care? No, because I wasn't playing the game nor did I have contact with the people that I played with in 1.0 to make a decision on where to transfer to. So I check out the game in P4 and find out that the server is maybe 5% NA and the rest JP and I can't transfer anymore. The only people left in my ls's are the ones that missed the server transfer because they weren't following the game.

    Please go on about how I was the foolish one here to expect server transfers at launch. I'd really like a good read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCaptin View Post
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    Where would you like me to begin?!

    The fact you didn't need to follow the game everyday like you seem to believe? Or the fact you chose to IGNORE the email as you couldn't be bothered to keep in touch with people you played V1 with?

    So first we have Arrogance, followed by your own ignorance. Not a good start really are we, when trying to justify something in your favour.

    Calling me a fanboy? Far from I'm usually first to voice my opinion on something SE does thats completely and utterly stupid. This however wasn't. You got the Emails. You had the common knowledge from V1 pre-ARR info, and yet still failed to do that simple click click BOOM done?

    I'm betting if SE offered a free Minion, when clicking a link in said email to pick your new Server's they'd be probably 90% less of this "It's SEs fault I'm lazy" whines with regards to being locked on a Server you didn't wanna be on.

    Monkey brains are often enticed by shinies afterall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCaptin View Post
    Love this argument. "You weren't following the game everyday until launch, then when you log into a JP server and you can't transfer you complain?

    Please go on about how I was the foolish one here to expect server transfers at launch. I'd really like a good read.
    You don't need to follow the game every day - If you cared for this game at all:

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/index.html

    You'd check info about this, which did indeed offer Server Transfers at soft launch (Open Beta/Early Access is generally referred to as a Soft Launch.) You can't blame SE because you chose not to keep up with info. I mean please be realistic, why did you choose not to keep up with info about the game you planned to play? You had a month to do a server transfer application basically - you're telling me during the entire half year of beta for ARR you never looked into it once or even information about it..? They emailed every one who played 1.0 about server transfers, if you posted even once on lodestone forums, you got an email because you played till at least level 2 even if you quit a week later, you got an email as a previous FFXIV player.

    Be honest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymeo View Post
    I can read, thanks. However I would need to know that there's something for me to read before I can start doing so.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1274113
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    Last edited by Tupsi; 09-16-2013 at 11:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaize View Post
    You failed to log in and pick a server weeks upon weeks before Phase 4, and thats SE's Service issues?! You failing to bother to log in and hit a button is THEIR Fault? lol...I admit SE have many problems, but this is yours not theres blaming them for your incompetence invalidates any rightful information that goes before the last sentence!
    Oceanic ping to Japanese servers is literally half that of EU/NA servers.

    There are HUGE numbers of English-speaking players on Japanese realms.

    All maintenance-related communication must be communicated in English along with Japanese. This one may have had a message with an [NA] prefix, but the vast majority of prior maintenances, and all of them that have only affected the JP servers, have not been addressed in English forums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furious View Post
    Oceanic ping to Japanese servers is literally half that of EU/NA servers.

    There are HUGE numbers of English-speaking players on Japanese realms.

    All maintenance-related communication must be communicated in English along with Japanese. This one may have had a message with an [NA] prefix, but the vast majority of prior maintenances, and all of them that have only affected the JP servers, have not been addressed in English forums.
    That quote of mine you used...now go read it, in it's context...see how it applies to nothing you just said?! Reading Comprehension, skills money can't buy!

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymeo View Post
    Then to expect people to know that they need to be looking at all of the game's different locations online, just in case there happened to appear a limited time offer... while the game's official service was offline, and had already been offline for several months? Just saying that you can't be too surprised by how this news slipped past so many people.
    I checked the Lodestone, and nothing but the Lodestone at least once 2-3weeks. And no not the BETA Version that was up for a brief period during this time, the same one us 1.0 peeps used back then, and yet I was still informed and managed to transfer as they went up without issue, and never missed any ARR info. Add to that the emails they sent me. C'mon stop trying to justify your ignorance. There is no excuse for it other than "Ignorance"! Stop blaming others for your faults.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrstyCaptin View Post
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    In this day and age where there are like more ways to contact people online than their are to eat your dinner, I find it extremely hard to even think of a reason why you wouldn't swap info, even facebook info, with someone you play a game on a daily basis with. I mean if they are indeed that important that you can't make a decision for yourself without their input surely you at least would have swapped some sort of contact info?!
    If not, then again, they either aint as important to you, as you are making out, just they are another excuse for this issue, or something else that I can't even begin to grasp!
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    Last edited by Blaize; 09-17-2013 at 12:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymeo View Post
    As usual, no info about it. At least not in English on the English forums. Info about every NA/EU technical issue as it came up, but nothing about JP servers.

    Dear SE, you have NA/EU players who have been stuck on JP servers since beta due to your service issues. We deserve updates too. Please start addressing us the way you do everyone else. Kthx.
    The English (NA) announcement actually came out 5 minutes before the Japanese announcement...

    [NA] Several Worlds Emergency Maintenance (Sep. 16)
    Started by NOC_NA‎, Today 09:41 PM


    一部ワールド 緊急メンテナンス作業のお知らせ(9/16)
    Started by NOC_JP‎, Today 09:46 PM


    There were also in-game system announcements in both English and Japanese -- at least there were on Gungnir (JP server).
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    Touche. The prefix of [NA] in the title caused me to overlook it, when it was actually about the [JP] servers. I will insert foot in mouth here. Thank you for the enlightenment... and for addressing my mistake like an adult, at that. I don't think that many on these forums would have shown the same maturity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymeo View Post
    Touche. The prefix of [NA] in the title caused me to overlook it, when it was actually about the [JP] servers. I will insert foot in mouth here. Thank you for the enlightenment... and for addressing my mistake like an adult, at that. I don't think that many on these forums would have shown the same maturity.
    Cuz blaming others (SE in this case) for your own mistakes is the Staple in Maturity examples right?! Pot/Kettle!!! etc etc. Don't be so quick next time and maybe others wont be so quick to rip you apart?!
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    lol. Did you completely miss out on the whole part where there wasn't a way to contact your 1.0 friends so basically you're going to blind transfer to a NA server ditching your friends or wait for P4/launch to see where you'd like to transfer? Oh my bad. Should have ditched the people I played the game with for years instead. Also expecting a world transfer service at launch, within the first couple weeks, was a ridiculous expectation for a 2013 MMO. Oh my bad again. And don't forget the 20 people who I know from my ls's who all are in the same boat. Add to that the rest of the NA population on my server from 1.0 (5%~ of 750k people to just get a ball park number) and that gives you 37.5k people that can't transfer to a NA server right now.

    Thanks for the good read of trying to justify something completely ridiculous. Helping me wake up this Monday morning with all the laughs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    You don't need to follow the game every day - If you cared for this game at all:

    http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/index.html

    You'd check info about this, which did indeed offer Server Transfers at soft launch (Open Beta/Early Access is generally referred to as a Soft Launch.) You can't blame SE because you chose not to keep up with info. I mean please be realistic, why did you choose not to keep up with info about the game you planned to play? You had a month to do a server transfer application basically - you're telling me during the entire half year of beta for ARR you never looked into it once or even information about it..?

    Be honest.



    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1274113
    Be honest? Ok.

    I didn't follow any of FFXIV until August after my summer semester was over. Prior to that I had a fishing tournament on May 18th and was taking 12 credits over the summer, including engineering math, dynamics, strength of materials and prob stat for engineers. No. Keeping up with beta was not on my list of concerns with that kind of course load. The final date for a server transfer was on July 15th. A month~ before P4 even started where I could speak to my friends about where to move to. How about the people who randomly see "Hey XIV relaunched finally, lemme go check it out since the client is a free download. Oh hey, I'm on a purely JP server now? No server transfer? Forget this.".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    I had no issues contacting my friends on Skype, MSN and LS Forums...?
    Sorry, these are people who live who knows where and I only contact them through ingame chat. We don't skype and 1.0 difficulty was so lol that there was no need for a forums. Same deal with the people I play in game with now. No forums yet. No emails. We talk in game and have a vent. It's not like I have people emails and phone numbers to call when I'm looking to do a CM run.
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    Last edited by CrstyCaptin; 09-16-2013 at 11:57 PM.

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