Loose use of the term "eliteist"

[Jynxii]

How is wanting to play this game and not fail at it a bad thing?

Some players get upset about this though. You want to succeed, so you are a bad person IF you are unable to succeed with them riding your coat tails.

This is what I couldn't quite get. The fact that it didn't seem to be whether the player was under geared, or how the 'elitist' spoke to them, but the simple fact that the 'elitists' wanted to succeed and were unable to do so with them along in their 'less prepared' state, which in turn lead to the 'elitist' mentioning it to them. This person didn't even have to be an elitist, but just wanted to clear the content (and put in the time to adequately prepare in order to do so), and instantly becomes labelled as one and then demonized for it.

Doesn't it make sense for people to want to succeed? I think the problem is people want to succeed without 'earning' it, and hell, the current generation of MMOs essentially let this happen, so it is a bit of a shock to the system when it doesn't necessarily pan out that way for a change.

The question is, why are you so obsessed about how other people play the game?

I like this. There was a similar discussion a few days back when people were talking about min/max'ing and getting all their appropriate cross-class skills. Essentially you had the actual min/max'ers that formed groups of like minded people, and then you had the 'wannabe' min/max'ers who expected people to have all the cross class abilities, but didn't have them themselves and were outraged/upset when they were outted/passed over.

Maybe there is a dissonance between where people 'think' they should be, and where they actually should be 'in reality'. This also occurs a lot when people think they are 'more skilled' than they actually are, and then blame things like not having 40ms or other players when they mess up.