Getting bored of Grindfest and lack of people doing dungeons nowdays

[Drakeos]

Is there possible way to raise XP for dungeons and lower XP for FATE's so that people can ACUALLY do dungeons for XP >.> sick of waiting over 30 mins (anymore if afked boom kicked off to login screen)

[Leafcore]

You wait 30 mins not because people are not doing dungeons. In fact there are TONS of people doing dungeons. It's because there only so many people are wiling to take the responsibility of being a tank or a healer. So basically the entire servers waits their turn to play with a tank and heals.

This happens in all MMOs.

[Makeda]

You wait 30 mins not because people are not doing dungeons. In fact there are TONS of people doing dungeons. It's because there only so many people are wiling to take the responsibility of being a tank or a healer. So basically the entire servers waits their turn to play with a tank and heals.

This happens in all MMOs.

This.

And some of us, well - given the rudeness of PUGs and how they all want speedruns... if my Company mates are online, you aren't likely to get me for your tank. Nor a lot of other tanks either.

So everytime you see a PUGly with an attitude... even if its your PUG tank - know that half your wait was because of a lack of tanks and healers, and half of it was because the tanks and healers that do exist don't usually want to deal with that rude person...

I did see some people standing midway between sastasha and the town right next to it for almost all of Sunday. Well, I was doing story quests and the dungeon there, and there was a FATE group always there... I'm just assuming it was the same people since anytime a FATE wasn't going on, a stack of them were just standing still...

Some people like to find the most boring way possible to play an MMO... and then complain about it. I was having a blast running through all the quests there. I and about 1/4th of the people there... the other 3/4ths were just standing around and spamming shout with requests to join a FATE group.

I saw those people in almost every new MMO since WoW's Burning Crusade came out... and they always give up after claiming the game sucks inside of 3 to 6 months, if not sooner... Really strange way to game, to set oneself up for disappointment like that.

If you don't want to be one of them, you have to get into a goof Free Company, or learn to be a PUG tank or PUG healer... or well... do the quests.

[Drakeos]

But grinding same FATE everytime isnt healthy and really puts me to sleep due to repetitive action over and over again

[Jaminos]

But grinding same FATE everytime isnt healthy and really puts me to sleep due to repetitive action over and over again

I made it from 1-40 with only needing to grind 3 or 4 Fates total. All I did was clean out all the quests and do what the game suggests. Between my hunting log, quests and dungeons (of which I only needed to do once. If I did them again it was because I enjoyed it) I have never felt the need to grind.


Now playing Lineage II, now that game was a grindfest. You killed mobs all day, without the help of a Fate system. And you either put up with it or you moved on.

This game is no grindfest. Just players who are to lazy to do a little bit of extra work to reach the next level. I get so tired of this mentality.

Its a new game. There is some trial and error involved before they can fix it. I'm sure adding more quests in for the late 30's and beyond is on their list. But they have bigger fish to fry with RMT sellers and server capacity issues.

[Caelynn]

But grinding same FATE everytime isnt healthy and really puts me to sleep due to repetitive action over and over again

Wait what??? Isn't this essentially the exact thing you are wanting to do but replace FATE with the word DUNGEON?? It's all a "grind" just disguised different ways :/

[BlaineCraner]

Wait what??? Isn't this essentially the exact thing you are wanting to do but replace FATE with the word DUNGEON?? It's all a "grind" just disguised different ways :/

Well, I think you look at it in a wrong way or don't understand the issue. You see, in FATE's you have a 10+ people slashing and smashing monsters till those drop, or doing some other minor task.

In dungeons you can have story elements. You also have a limited group which has to tactically figure out how to beat the enemy (Copperbell had a great final boss in that regard IMO). A Dungeon has structure, rooms to explore, sometimes dialogue or other things to read, many different/varied monsters to slay (sometimes you have to find an unconventional way to do that) and rooms with loot that such monsters guard (which are optional - that's a good thing). The difference is the level of complexity, freedom and overall stuff to do.

Dungeons are designed so, that each one is a different/unique experience.

With FATE's most of the time you wait for a monster encounter to spawn and then you gang up on those monsters with 10+ other people in a chaotic, loud mess.
Wait, then hack'n'slash. Wait, then hack'n'slash. Wait, then hack'n'slash. Wait, then hack'n'slash.
You don't even have to be in a group to participate. You don't even talk with people.

[Jem]

to me this goes to show how not needed quest grinding was, i know it was added because it was the MMO "standard" but this just goes to show that people ignored it and started FATE grinding, and fate grinding is basically monster grinding so why don't we just bring back exp parties.... it's clearly what people want anyway.

[BlaineCraner]

I'm also getting sick of the grinders. Like Jaminos said, you can level up easily with the actual game content. You have quests, socializing, forming a stable and fun party, the effin main storyline, dungeons, guildleves and guildhests... but NO, people prefer to grind and repeat the same sheit like machine or a broken record. What the hell?! Why even buy the game if you are going to skip 80% of it? I wonder if those people will utilize ANY of the features that Square is planing for the future, like housing, card games or chocobo races.

Heh... Why should they, if they can just GRIND. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoJE3slQR4s

Am I the only one that gets creeped out by the grinders? I mean, how much more obsessive compulsive you can get? Sometimes it looks almost fanatical... JEEZ...

[Swiftray]

Think about the people who lvl their second class with no quests and Main Story...
Its all about park in the middle of the map, yell "LFG FATES" and then ride&sapp your ae