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    Tanks, Heavy Darklight and AF+1 not fair.

    This isn't exactly a bug but I believe it's something that needs to be "fixed" in a sense. Right now Warrior and Paladin are the only two classes that wear Darklight that requires Both Head and Chest slots to be taken up and both legs and boots. This causes a problem I and many other tanks have noticed. The problem is that when purchasing Artifact +1 you CAN NOT equip it until you have obtained the other piece as well. Every other class get's to purchase their first Artifact piece and equip it but both Warrior and Paladin can't. Example. If I am wearing Heavy Darklight Armor (which is the best prior to AF+1) it takes up my Head/Chest. If I purchase my Head AF I can't equip it because I have Heavy Darklight on. I can't equip my Heavy Darklight because AF+1 + another piece isn't as good as Heavy Darklight. So in order to get the benefits of AF+1 Tanks need both Head and Chest, and Legs and boots, before equipping the artifact.

    In the long run it's exactly the same amount of mythology, I understand. But it put's Warrior/Paladins 2 weeks before everyone else getting to equip their artifact pieces. They need to separate Heavy Darklight just like they do with every other class. Head, Chest, Gloves, Legs, and boots all need to be separate. It's a cool idea but it is flawed.
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    Mages also wear "cowl" which takes up the head slot. This isn't a bug so much as a design choice, methinks.
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    Not with Artifact and Darklight though. I understand it's a design choice but it puts Tanks 2 weeks behind everyone else in equipping their Artifact. Like I said, in the long run all is the same but for the most part it's about being relevant when end game is current.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags1412 View Post
    Not with Artifact and Darklight though. I understand it's a design choice but it puts Tanks 2 weeks behind everyone else in equipping their Artifact. Like I said, in the long run all is the same but for the most part it's about being relevant when end game is current.
    No, seriously. Darklight Cowl--check it out in Revenant's Toll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryuhkin View Post
    No, seriously. Darklight Cowl--check it out in Revenant's Toll.
    Well it's still unfair to them as well then.
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    I understand the urge of wanting to equip the finally gained piece but if you did that event with darklight I think you can keep going for few more days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    I understand the urge of wanting to equip the finally gained piece but if you did that event with darklight I think you can keep going for few more days.
    I'm not sure if you are quite grasping what I'm saying. Since Darklight Chest armor takes up 2 slots. And it's roughly 1360?(I think) for both +1 Head and Chest Artifact. Warrior's and Paladins have to wait 5 weeks before being able to even equip 1 piece of Artifact +1. Whereas everyone else gets to equip their first piece after at week 3 and then their second at week 5. So by week 5 both are on the same page but then Warrior/Paladin has to restart the process of Legs/Boots. So tanks are behind 2 weeks 2 different times in the gearing up process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags1412 View Post
    I'm not sure if you are quite grasping what I'm saying. Since Darklight Chest armor takes up 2 slots. And it's roughly 1360?(I think) for both +1 Head and Chest Artifact. Warrior's and Paladins have to wait 5 weeks before being able to even equip 1 piece of Artifact +1. Whereas everyone else gets to equip their first piece after at week 3 and then their second at week 5. So by week 5 both are on the same page but then Warrior/Paladin has to restart the process of Legs/Boots. So tanks are behind 2 weeks 2 different times in the gearing up process.
    Of course I got it, so?
    Keep playing two more weeks as you did till then and equip it when you get both pieces. Or will your friends leave you behind because you are 2 weeks late?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZohnoReecho View Post
    Of course I got it, so?
    Keep playing two more weeks as you did till then and equip it when you get both pieces. Or will your friends leave you behind because you are 2 weeks late?
    How would you feel if next patch Puglists gear was 1 entire piece and you couldn't buy it for 10 weeks but everyone else got 1 piece every 2 weeks. In the long run it's the same, right? So what's it matter. What I'm trying to argue obviously isn't that "Oh my friends will leave me behind" it's that certain classes are getting the option to take full advantage of their AF2 whereas the other classes aren't. Right away at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mags1412 View Post
    How would you feel if next patch Puglists gear was 1 entire piece and you couldn't buy it for 10 weeks but everyone else got 1 piece every 2 weeks. In the long run it's the same, right? So what's it matter. What I'm trying to argue obviously isn't that "Oh my friends will leave me behind" it's that certain classes are getting the option to take full advantage of their AF2 whereas the other classes aren't. Right away at least.
    I'm sorry but I'm not able to grasp the issue.
    Following your line of thought no more players should subscribe to FFXIV because the others are already ahead of them.
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