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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    And yes, Arc Tea exploited the free-to-play aspect of this game. (And the fact craft bot is totally out of control and rampant)

    SE better make an example of them.
    Wow some pretty strong words.

    (Democracy?)(Can I Have It?)

    As much as I don't agree with cheaters you gotta have proof regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kam View Post
    you've already failed at explaining the UK education system, in a form that represents itself perfectly.

    (a retarded one)
    Explain to me where I failed? The government pay for my living costs and my student costs, and it is as simple as that, the required payback rates are so low that you cant pay it off in a life time due to standard inflation. So you dont pay it back.Also keep below 15k a year and you dont even pay back a penny, keep below 20k a year and your phone contract will be more expensive than your student loans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Explain to me where I failed? The government pay for my living costs and my student costs, and it is as simple as that, the required payback rates are so low that you cant pay it off in a life time due to standard inflation. So you dont pay it back.Also keep below 15k a year and you dont even pay back a penny, keep below 20k a year and your phone contract will be more expensive than your student loans.
    Only if you plan to get a job in McDonalds when you graduate. £15k is nothing these days and will be minimum wage in a couple decades. Most people will graduate and get a decent salary at some point and pay it all off. I wouldn't bother going to uni if I thought I'd earn so little that I'd never pay my loans off.

    PS. I am from the UK too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by viion View Post
    Explain to me where I failed? The government pay for my living costs and my student costs, and it is as simple as that, the required payback rates are so low that you cant pay it off in a life time due to standard inflation. So you dont pay it back.Also keep below 15k a year and you dont even pay back a penny, keep below 20k a year and your phone contract will be more expensive than your student loans.
    Your aspirations for life are in the right place. Aim for under 15k, you'll be living the dream.
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    Dunesfolk for months....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verecund View Post
    Dunesfolk for months....
    Dunesfolk for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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    oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
    seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

    anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
    on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
    seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

    anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
    on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.
    Because its not legit?

    This type of thing ruins MMOs?

    Why I am I wasting my time playing like a sap, socialising and leve-linking when I should be running my own rmt/free-game exploit-empire like this guy.
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    Last edited by Kam; 05-02-2011 at 09:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Rose View Post
    oh boy oh boy, witch-hunt time!
    seriously, why does everyone care so much about someone getting all classes to 50?

    anyways, grats to arc, regardless to him botting or not.
    on a more serious note tho, he has alot of guild mark skills, yet i thought botters don't even bother with getting marks since all they do is grind.
    Why... WHY? Really? While I spend all this time grinding and stuff to earn my rank, here he is doing it in his sleep and getting way past me. It's not right and can even hurt your gameplay, like when a botter can pick off mobs faster than you, ect.
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    Bah, marks are handed out like candy since that patch a few weeks ago. I've almost got everything a TAN can purchase and I'm only rank 35.
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