Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[Renvalt]

Having done this FATE myself, I was unaware of the fact that the non-FATE mobs spawn was considered an exploit. Now I kinda feel awful (even though I only used it to close a necessary level gap, I still harbor guilt towards abusing it if it indeed WAS an exploit) about my actions.

I'd hate to be rolled back considering I was unaware of it being an exploit to begin with (since everyone kept me in the dark about it), but I think if it evens the playing field, then it's a small price to pay for what everyone'll get in return.

If it's NOT an exploit, though, I still refuse to take advantage of it. But with that said, they (Square Enix) needs to offer an incentive against this kind of FATE - or at least alter FATEs to have some kind of reward other than EXP for doing them. Leveling is tough now that I'm out of quests - and I personally dislike stagnant repetitiveness.

[AngryNixon]

Nobody likes a narc. The people who ruin it for others by "completing it in a timely manner" are clueless or are trolling everyone there by doing it because they didn't get into a FATE party and they know it, the ire is well deserved. Nobody is "ignoring" the objectives. They're consciously choosing to delay completion to get the most bang for their buck on this FATE that is working as intended.

Those people damn well should be blacklisted because whether or not they "assume" it's an exploit they're shitting the bed in some hissy fit of self-righteousness all over the way it currently works and ruining it for literally everyone there knowingly. It's one thing to suspect it's an exploit and tell SE (still a narc), it's another to be high handed about it like that. It's the selfish high handed self-righteous giant loser act of screwing everyone over that earns them blacklisting, not the act of questioning whether this was working as intended.

[ZohnoReecho]

Nobody likes a narc. The people who ruin it for others by "completing it in a timely manner" are clueless or are trolling everyone there by doing it because they didn't get into a FATE party and they know it, the ire is well deserved. Nobody is "ignoring" the objectives. They're consciously choosing to delay completion to get the most bang for their buck on this FATE that is working as intended.

I don't get it. Why do you think they are ruining it for you and instead it's not the opposite?

[Ptolemy]

Nobody likes a narc. The people who ruin it for others by "completing it in a timely manner" are clueless or are trolling everyone there by doing it because they didn't get into a FATE party and they know it, the ire is well deserved. Nobody is "ignoring" the objectives. They're consciously choosing to delay completion to get the most bang for their buck on this FATE that is working as intended.

doing things unintended, gets them nerfed


GJ :x

[MisaCeliousa]

this

Any players who attempt to complete the FATE as intended (read: killing Lambs of Dalamud) in a timely manner receive the ire of those exploiting the event, including harassment through tells, shout, and false reports accusing players of botting (amusing since standing in one spot and spamming AOEs is more bot-like behavior than doing a FATE as intended) or RMT spamming.

is why it should be changed. personally I always just end it too, I don't really want to stand in the middle of 40 other white mages spamming holy until my gpu crashes so I always just go and ends the fate instantly while having shout turned off

[Slaxx]

Having done this FATE myself, I was unaware of the fact that the non-FATE mobs spawn was considered an exploit.

Snip for stupid forum limitations.

They are FATE mobs, just not the target mobs for the completion of the FATE.

With the absolutely massive XP requirements for the last 5 - 10 levels "exploiting" (I personally don't feel this is an exploit in the against the ToS sense) this kind of mechanic is the only way to reach these levels in any reasonable length of time, and I'm still working on my first 50. As someone who leveled multiple jobs to 75 (the cap at the time) in FFXI I can say that level grinding can absolutely suck the life out of you, and your MMO. Slow and tedious leveling should never be a substitute for meaningful content.

[AngryNixon]

I don't get it. Why do you think they are ruining it for you and instead it's not the opposite?

Tough life. Everything's ruined for everyone it seems.

On a side note I'm happy none of these good upstanding people forcing the finish no matter what are not on my server. My black list is already full with gold sellers at the moment. There's something that really needs fixing. SE never mind this FATE that's working as intended, please double or triple the length of my black list. Also, maybe at a comments section so I can remind myself why I black listed people in the first place.

doing things unintended, gets them nerfed


GJ :x

no GJ. If SE says it's unintended - it is, if you say it - not so much.

[ZohnoReecho]

With the absolutely massive XP requirements for the last 5 - 10 levels "exploiting" (I personally don't feel this is an exploit in the against the ToS sense) this kind of mechanic is the only way to reach these levels in any reasonable length of time, and I'm still working on my first 50.

The side quests around the mission starter are enough if you wanna get to 50 enjoying the game. The only "hole" I found was at 47-49.

[Ptolemy]

no GJ. If SE says it's unintended - it is, if you say it - not so much.

Don't like reading much huh? i was just stating something, nothing else


GJ at failing

[Mithent]

It's not an exploit in the sense of exploiting a bug (as the respawn is intentional), but it is gaming a mechanic in a way that the designers didn't intend. It's not the same as grinding mobs for 15 minutes, because the respawn rate and density in normal areas is far lower - you can't just stand in one spot and mindlessly AoE things to build up massive chain bonuses. It's obvious that the intention was that you complete the FATE by attacking the target enemies and continue with the FATE chain. That you can game the system by ignoring the enemies you're supposed to be focusing on for such huge amounts of XP should probably be addressed, but it wouldn't be so bad if it didn't mean that players completing the FATE as designed are harassed for doing just what the designers intended.