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    Anton Cano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazui View Post
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    You aren't demonstrating integrity sir. You are just showing us you are a narrow-minded player throwing a tantrum on the forum.
    There are fifteen minute timers for the simplest of FATEs. The timer is irrelevant. I don't rush people through dungeons; also irrelevant.

    I do, however, do FATEs as they're intended to be done. You may have noticed that there are objectives under this timer you seem to be so fixated on. That's what you're supposed to do to progress or complete FATEs. That's what I do. I don't abuse oversight by the developers; I play the game the way they intended. I want this fixed so people can play the game in peace rather than having impatient, entitled brats harass them because they can't earn 20x more XP than any other FATE in the game by exploiting the trash in phase one of this FATE.

    I have the integrity to not abuse oversight by the developers which is more than I can say for a lot of people.
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    Last edited by Badger; 09-18-2013 at 03:07 AM.

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    Mazui Hoshigami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    There are fifteen minute timers for the simplest of FATEs. The timer is irrelevant. I don't rush people through dungeons; also irrelevant.

    <snip> I want this fixed so people can play the game in peace rather than having impatient, entitled brats harass them <snip>
    The timer is relevant. Why would you consider a timer for a fate an oversight by the devs? You have X amount of time to complete Y conditions. The event will continue until the conditions are met (Win) or the players run out of time (Lose).

    That's great that you want to speed things along. Go kill the mobs then. Report douches that harass you. There isn't anything wrong with the quests, the problem is the vitriol you receive from other players. As sad as this is, that is commonplace in MMOs. I hate that people can be so cruel to each other. Report them and move along though. No need to let it get to you.
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    Soaring on the wings of selfish pride, I flew too high. And like Icarus I collide, with a world I try so hard to leave behind. -Jars of Clay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mazui View Post
    The timer is relevant. Why would you consider a timer for a fate an oversight by the devs? You have X amount of time to complete Y conditions. The event will continue until the conditions are met (Win) or the players run out of time (Lose).
    The timer is not the oversight; it's the obscene amount of XP you can earn by completely ignoring the objectives. Even if there are other FATEs that have similar mechanics the mob density and respawn rate are much lower so they're not farmed in such a manner. People are so protective of this exploit that they resort to harassment and false botting reports to try to get back at people who just do the FATE as it is intended to be done. That is reason enough alone to fix it, but I can also toss in that it is grossly out of proportion compared to every other FATE of this level (20x more in fact) and that should be a huge indicator that this is not intended.
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    Squishy Pants
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Even if there are other FATEs that have similar mechanics the mob density and respawn rate are much lower so they're not farmed in such a manner.
    The game uses a dynamic system based on activity, the more players the more frequently it will spawn enemies. This is why you can solo a fate or 20x the enemies arrive when you have more people participating.

    What you are missing here is this is a 49 Fate and people are leveling based on it for their 2nd + classes when they have no more quests or are burnt on questing on their first character. This increases the number of players here exponentially.

    If this was a level 5 fate you wouldn't notice as there would be much fewer people swarming it. What is really going on here is the combination of the number of players, level and strength of enemies, and players with level 45+ abilities available to them.

    This is not an exploit you are confusing other factors as exploitation of the game.
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    Mattia Liano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    I do, however, do FATEs as they're intended to be done. You may have noticed that there are objectives under this timer you seem to be so fixated on.
    Then why don't you collect that objective till the very last minute then turn it in.....? Again, not an exploit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
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    Meanwhile in reality you are only trying to discredit others because you don't want your toy taken away.

    Pathetic really.
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    Chie Kaisuri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
    Meanwhile in reality you are only trying to discredit others because you don't want your toy taken away.

    Pathetic really.
    You're a bully. Simple as that.

    I'd bet you'd hate it if I walked into your room and forced you to stop playing your favorite video game because I don't agree with the way you're playing it.

    The FATE is still being completed as intended. We still kill Lambs to win. We just choose to take our time to get more EXP along the way by fighting the enemies provided within the FATE itself. People come into this topic and say that they are purposely killing the lambs because that completes the FATE. Stop kidding yourself and stop lying. We all know the truth of what you and your lamb-killing kind doing:

    "I have the power to troll hundreds of people and get away with it. YAY!"

    You're no different than a bully. Blacklisting Lamb killers is our one and only option against bullies like you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
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    You seem to have already forgotten what your last post contained if you are referring to me as a bully. SE already had their word on this in the alpha/beta. It's beyond me how anyone can even think what they're doing isn't effecting the rest of the game in an MMO.

    Don't let me stop you from screaming at the top of your lungs that this somehow isn't an exploit though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiraelina View Post
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    And in-turn, don't blame me when someone catches you killing lambs and you get blacklisted by hundreds of people each time. Not sure how people are on Sargatanas, but on Leviathan, players tend to respect one another in this FATE for the most part and the few who do go and kill Lambs are Blacklisted by entire Free Companies at a time. It's because it's trolling and bullying others for not playing the game the way you want them to play it, and nothing else, no matter how desperately you and your like-minded Lamb-killers want to believe (or pretend to believe) that you're doing players a "service."

    So I stand by what I say. And if a similar topic on GameFAQs is any indication, many of you know what you're doing is trolling, but you do it anyway for laughs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagato View Post
    And in-turn, don't blame me when someone catches you killing lambs and you get blacklisted by hundreds of people each time. Not sure how people are on Sargatanas, but on Leviathan, players tend to respect one another in this FATE for the most part and the few who do go and kill Lambs are Blacklisted by entire Free Companies at a time. It's because it's trolling and bullying others for not playing the game the way you want them to play it, and nothing else, no matter how desperately you and your like-minded Lamb-killers want to believe (or pretend to believe) that you're doing players a "service."

    So I stand by what I say. And if a similar topic on GameFAQs is any indication, many of you know what you're doing is trolling, but you do it anyway for laughs.
    I don't really care either if some FATE farmers want to blacklist me, nothing of value is lost. You sure are throwing a lot of self righteous judgement around over nothing.
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