Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[Badger]

It is a legit way to level up.

Yes, one FATE awarding 245,000 XP while every other FATE at this level awards 1/20th of that is completely intended and legitimate. Are you serious?

OP should be forced to level a second job using only fates, you know, like we're all forced to do if you want to have that second job. When he's all done, we can ask him if his feelings about DD have changed at all.

I'm already half way there with my WAR doing nothing but FATEs and dungeons. I don't need to resort to exploits to get over the "grind". This game is much slower paced than most other MMOs on the market. Perhaps it's just not your style?

[Senuska]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit...line_gaming%29

Game mechanics
Taking advantage of the systems that make up the gameplay. A game mechanics exploit is not a bug—it is working as designed, but at the same time is not working as intended.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/exploit

Simply put, the players are taking advantage of a poor game design in a way that was not intended.

Thus it is an exploit. No ’if’s, ’and’s or ’but’s about it.

[coffeepotz]

It is a design flaw that people are exploiting. And frankly, anyone who thinks this should not be fixed knows they are exploiting this flaw. That is why they keep telling OP to shut up, because he is right.

[Dhalmel]

This is 1.0's leveshower, garuda burn, atomos all over again, it'll get fixed in due time.

[Althea]

So if they nerf it or normalize the xp from it, what's the point? We level up slower? Why is that a concern?

[Gilraen]

I love this. I've yet to be in a Fate party because, well... why? The only thing claiming does is guarantee exp and drops, everyone can kill the same mob so being in a party is pretty pointless. And this is the first I've heard of this particular fate, guess I don't frequent the area enough. But this flies in the face of everything people complained about with speed runs. Instead of people whining about having to kill trash mobs, here they don't want anyone to mess with their trash mobs. If I were ever in this Fate I'd be so all over the target mobs. I'd make sure I was a class, too, so I could have all the curing abilities I could get just so I could make sure I ended it early. This IS an exploit in the very same vein as speed runs, it's just the other side of the proverbial coin.

[KogaDrake]

The fate is being done as designed, to some extent. Did the devs plan that we would farm mobs till 2min left then start killing the lambs in the back? Likely not, but until they say that it is not intended or not appropriate their is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

This FATE has been being used in this way since a few days after the start of Early Access and I am sure that the devs are aware of it. If they truthfully had an issue and felt it was an exploit they could have and would have simply moved the location of the lambs (all separate in the back) to be evenly placed throughout the FATE area so we could not just skip them and farm.

next people are going to say farming the mine (where this fate is located) between fates is also an exploit since one strong AOE group will claim and kill everything so quick that no one else can get exp here between fates.

[BoomerOU]

I don't think it's an exploit, but it is incredibly boring. It's kind of silly that such a menial task generates that much exp.

[Dantes]

I guess my issue with Dark Designs is that the behavior debated about over the last 10 pages only makes sense.
If I'm designing this Fate why would I expect players to skip the 20 or so xp providing enemies just to get to the 5 or 6 enemies that are necessary to complete the fate? If I don't expect them defeated repeatedly, why would I set them to respawn in seconds?
I'm no game designer but its hard for me to imagine that if I were I would expect the following line of thinking from a rational adult: "Ok, I'm here to gain experience points. To complete this event I must literally run through a mob of enemies that provide experience points to attack a small number of enemies. I will, therefore, ignore the glaring opportunity gain a large amount of experience points by chaining/defeating enemies and skip them to reach the 5 enemies behind them."

[Dantes]

I'm always open to the idea that I could be wrong, but nothing about this screams exploit. Does it scream cheap and ridiculously easy? Yes and maybe that's truly the issue that those against it take with it. However, assuming that the designer/s of Dark Designs are reasonable adults, it isn't easy for me to accept that this and so many other Fates were DESIGNED, these fates didn't create themselves, this way accidentally.
Assuming it isn't an exploit, I have to say that though I'm normally on the side of the minority on these sorts of issues, the players that intentionally complete this fate just to annoy players that aren't playing the way they like come off as pretty low individuals. Say what you like about why you're doing it (seals, whatever) but the truth is that you're doing what you want to do without regard for a large group of people that will be setback as a consequence.