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  1. #81
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    hamsteak's Avatar
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    Hidden Dragon
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    seriously? the only way to actually level other battle classes is through FATEs and yet everyday i read a bunch of threads and posts about how it should be nerfed and how people are leveling too fast and yada yada yada

    now i've only done this particular FATE 2 times, but why do you care if someone is grinding mobs for experience? because that's literally all they're doing, you can do the same thing for those turn-in FATEs though for some reason people never do
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  2. #82
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    lol no point explaining it again. Anyway I can't say i didn't use it. However it will be fixed at some point and all the people insulting the OP are going to look stupid. I can't say I care enough to make a post about it but good for him. I wouldn't even be looking if it wasn't for the servers been down lol.
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  3. #83
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    Seraph Khalid
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    As I said before, the banhammer does not care what your opinion on the matter is. If it was an exploit of game mechanics to abuse the system in a way that was not intended, then this will result in firm action. For your information, a company named Square Enix has banned people from a game named Final Fantasy XIV weeks after launch for using an exp exploit. You should stop thinking about what you think and more about what SE thinks in regards to whether action will be taken or not.
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  4. #84
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    Tenebria Miku
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    the only problem i have with that FATE and other FATEs with quick spawning mobs is if your not part of the 8 man groups that are doing exactly the opposite of what the FATE is asking you to do your getting absolutely nothing from it and if you actually do the FATE all the people abusing mechanics will have a huge fit and threaten you and report you for abuse and it just goes on and on.

    If purposely not completing a FATE is not an exploit, actually doing the FATE certainly is not and no one has any right to be abusive to someone that isn't part of their group and wants to participate in events the way they were intended.


    People that defend stuff like this so strongly seem like the type people that would buy a box of sinus medicine and go "you know it doesn't say not to cook this into meth..."
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  5. #85
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    Devilray Asura
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    Compared to other exploits, this grinding is very tame. Are we duping items? No. Are we abusing a glitch that gives us 1,000,000 XP with no effort? No. You have to put in effort to kill the mobs to get XP for 10+ minutes straight. If you found a way to skip a whole dungeon, I would say that is much more serious exploit than a simple grind XP fest. If they were to fix this grinding issue in fetch FATEs or the DD FATE, they would have to seriously rework how mobs spawn in these kind of FATEs. And considering how freaking easy it is to get 1-99 in FFXI Abyssesa, I don't see how grinding can be a problem in this game with a similar, multiple jobs system. I think it's a very nice change in pace from all the questing and running around doing FATEs.

    And I hardly got that much XP from grinding because so many parties were competing for mob kills.
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    Last edited by Devilray; 09-16-2013 at 05:46 PM.

  6. #86
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    Nikolai Versum
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    the funny part about this thread is and yes i just read all nine pages is that everyone here has participated in the "so called exploit." So whoever was talkin about SE banning people who dont turn themselves in, would likely be banned aswell considering that news of that caliber probably wouldnt make it to the ears of say, everyone. on another note though i do believe SE has stated in an interview that they are aware of the difference in exp gain between fate and dungeon and are currently looking into faster ways to level outside of fates.
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  7. #87
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    Shima Kyaro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilized View Post
    oh look, another whine thread. better hurry up and ruin everyone else's fun, right OP!?
    Quote Originally Posted by Terpthree View Post
    OP got yelled at for killing lambs and cried his way all the way to this thread. Shut up and relax kid.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kiyashi View Post
    God the amount of QQing over stupid CRAP in this game is incredible. OP seriously if you feel that everyone should be playing like how YOU want then please gtfo and go play something else.
    This kind of behavior is precisely why this FATE and others like it need to be adjusted. Do you really mean to say that it was the developer's intention for a mass of people to stand in place, spamming as many AOE abilities as they can while harassing, insulting, reporting, and blacklisting people who try to actually complete the FATE objectives? That by doing so, you could gain more experience than any other FATE in the game by almost 1000%? This is exactly the kind of thing I would be looking at as unintended if I was developing the game, and after what they did to Amdapor, I think it's safe to say they're going to eventually do the same to these FATEs.
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  8. #88
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    Greinbroes Ganztylsyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihility View Post
    the only problem i have with that FATE and other FATEs with quick spawning mobs is if your not part of the 8 man groups that are doing exactly the opposite of what the FATE is asking you to do your getting absolutely nothing from it and if you actually do the FATE all the people abusing mechanics will have a huge fit and threaten you and report you for abuse and it just goes on and on.

    If purposely not completing a FATE is not an exploit, actually doing the FATE certainly is not and no one has any right to be abusive to someone that isn't part of their group and wants to participate in events the way they were intended.


    People that defend stuff like this so strongly seem like the type people that would buy a box of sinus medicine and go "you know it doesn't say not to cook this into meth..."


    This has got to be the most unintelligent response yet. My goodness, I think my IQ just dropped a couple points after reading that.
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  9. #89
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    Anton Cano
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devilray View Post
    Compared to other exploits, this grinding is very tame. Are we duping items? No. Are we abusing a glitch that gives us 1,000,000 XP with no effort? No. You have to put in effort to kill the mobs to get XP for 10+ minutes straight.

    And I hardly got that much XP from grinding because so many parties were competing for mob kills.
    Normal world mobs have longer spawn times and are not so densely packed, so you can't compare this to good old fashioned open-world chain farming. Again, if this were commonplace in the game that would be one thing, but this is the only place (that I know of) where you can make 245,000 XP in under 20 minutes if you complete the whole chain.

    When every other FATE in the game at this level rewards between 12,000-45,000 XP, you cannot honestly say this is working as intended. If it were the Lambs of Dalamud wouldn't be the target; it'd be a "Survive copious amounts of pissed off mobs for fifteen minutes."
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  10. #90
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    Nala Valsharess
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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger View Post
    Normal world mobs have longer spawn times and are not so densely packed, so you can't compare this to good old fashioned open-world chain farming. Again, if this were commonplace in the game that would be one thing, but this is the only place (that I know of) where you can make 245,000 XP in under 20 minutes if you complete the whole chain.

    When every other FATE in the game at this level rewards between 12,000-45,000 XP, you cannot honestly say this is working as intended. If it were the Lambs of Dalamud wouldn't be the target; it'd be a "Survive copious amounts of pissed off mobs for fifteen minutes."
    It's absolutely not intended, but that doesn't instantly classify it as an exploit. It's an oversight that developers missed and i'm sure they'll adjust that specific fate appropriately next patch.
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