Dark Devices - Phase 1 Exploit

[Haredin-Hunter]

I dislike it because it creates a bad attitude towards things with timers, I got black listed by a guy complaining about turning in the gather fates because I wanted to get my experience then and not struggle to try and get a few hits in while the zerg of dps destroys everything. Granted he did it to try and fuck me over in an attempt to save the server by limiting the parties I could get into and make my que time longer. Guess he didn't realize I was a tank, I just didn't see it being worth my time.

[Eliseus]

I have a dream, that one day people will know what an exploit is.

[Issac]

you're like the guy who sees everyone having a good time and you chunk a couple of smoke bombs in the middle of them.

Oh god! xD
I think I'm the guy who would have LOTS of fun doing this. My sides would be on the moon!

[Dijana]

"It's not an exploit! We're just utilizing an oversight by the developers that doesn't involve hacking but breaks the spirit of the activity. It's totally different than Amdapor Speed runs!"

You're damn crazy if you think getting an extra 100k exp from a FATE that gives ~10k isn't an exploit. This is coming from someone who has been in a few DD parties.

Im the sort of person who hates when people actually do exploit something and come up with excuses to say its okay, but I really dont think this is one of those times. The mobs people kill are part of the fate, there is no rule breaking, no cheating, by farming those ones in particular. It's 15 minutes out of 1-2 hours, it's not as if it stops people from completing content because they need it for a quest and other people monopolize, its a fate. It's not as if people can abuse this only to powerlevel, you're likely to get the same or more exp if you continue running to other fates and doing other stuff. It's not as though people are glitching out the mobs by standing on rocks or something to make it easier and claiming 'if it wasnt meant to be done that way they wouldnt have put it in.' It's not as though they're abusing some mechanic to bypass other mechanics of the fate to get an easy award without the effort as in the case of AK. It's a fate, it spawns mobs that award exp and don't contribute to fate completion, and players choose to spend the time killing those mobs until the last few minutes to squeeze out as much exp as the fate will allow.

[Silverharp]

Lol, I knew it wouldn't take long to see this topic. *pfft* "Exploit"

[ErnestoGiovanni]

A lot of fates have this mechanic. Its just more people know where the noncompletion mobs spawn.

[Ceol]

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That's actually what an exploit is. It's using an oversight to gain an advantage you wouldn't normally have and that wasn't intended. It's pretty obvious that you are not supposed to gain an extra 100k exp from that FATE or else FATEs giving 100k exp would be littering the game. It's just that "do 30% damage and get exp", "every job gets an AoE by 45", and "FATE that spawns infinite mobs in close quarters" all came together right there.

[Evilized]

oh look, another whine thread.


better hurry up and ruin everyone else's fun, right OP!?

[ErnestoGiovanni]

A lot of fates have this mechanic. Its just more people know where the noncompletion mobs spawn.

[Badger]

The amount of people trying to justify this is astounding. There's very little integrity left on these forums I think.

You're honestly telling me that the developers intended for one step of a four-step fate chain that awards around 6600 XP on completion to yield more XP by farming mobs than it does to complete the entirety of the chain (45,000 XP or so IIRC)? You really believe that this one fate is supposed to be worth 245,000 XP (assuming gold all the way and a good farming group) while every other fate in the game at this level is 12,000-22,000 XP? Get real.

You sound like the people who tried to justify the L:50 dungeon speed runs. I don't care if this FATE gives me easy XP, it's obviously broken. They need to make all fate mobs give a lot less or no XP and instead increase the XP completion rewards, along with significantly increasing leve and dungeon XP, but that's another issue for another thread.