Mining Bot

[Jaquelidor]

I was mining last night to get a start on my Alchemy and there were more bots mining the area than players. I reported them all but it was pretty depressing to witness. I don't know enough about programming to offer a solution. All I can do is hope SE is serious about rectifying the situation.

[Dyvid]

SE thought the bots would be botting fishing, so they killed the class. Well be prepared for them to kill mining and botany since they just bot those :/ They should have known they couldn't stop them by killing fishing and shard recipes.

It's already happening. The market is flooded and price are plummeting.

[Ksenia]

This thread contradicts itself. Bots and gill sellers don't crash markets. They prefer to have them crazy inflated so people have the impression they need to buy gill to do anything.

Fleece is a gill sellers dream come true. Flooding a game with mats on par with vendor rates hurts gill sellers.

[jcw005]

This thread contradicts itself. Bots and gill sellers don't crash markets. They prefer to have them crazy inflated so people have the impression they need to buy gill to do anything.

Fleece is a gill sellers dream come true. Flooding a game with mats on par with vendor rates hurts gill sellers.

Markets work off of supply and demand. Artificially generate supply (through botting), and you hurt market prices because supply exceeds demand. Also, you make it sound like botters work together, as opposed to compete with one another, which they do (gil spammers are often advertising competing websites).

[Ksenia]

Markets work off of supply and demand. Artificially generate supply (through botting), and you hurt market prices because supply exceeds demand. Also, you make it sound like botters work together, as opposed to compete with one another, which they do (gil spammers are often advertising competing websites).

You are talking in circles. It still doesn't explain how glutting the markets benefits any RMT operation in FF14. While I can see it being damaging to someone trying to make gill as a gatherer and it could be viewed as an exploit, it's not tied to RMT or gill sellers.

I just got a tell from one of the xzab chars trying to sell me crystals for RL cash. If that's the best they have to work with? They be screwed.

[zproximo]

Look, there is going to be botters and gil spammers, I can come to terms with that. They will pop up faster than they can be ban hammered. Whatever.

But when there is a massive amount of botters, and they are using exploits to teleport node to node, then NO that is infuriating! How can anyone put up with that??

[oceanlord]

reported 3 mining bots yesterday and today they are still there mining their gil
SE doesn't care?

[Vaelkyrie]

reported 3 mining bots yesterday and today they are still there mining their gil
SE doesn't care?

After GW2 launched, ppl thought they weren't* doing* anything, but in reality they were watching and learning what methods the people use to bot/hack/spam and working on ways to counter them. They would then wait a while and ban them all in massive waves of thousands of accounts. I guess because if you ban them one at a time or just ban a few, then they come up with something new right away because they know you're onto them. Or something.

Not saying that is or isn't what's happening here, just pointing out another recent game that had a similar situation

*edits for making the sentence make sense

[Sivara]

After GW2 launched, ppl thought they weren't* doing* anything, but in reality they were watching and learning what methods the people use to bot/hack/spam and working on ways to counter them. They would then wait a while and ban them all in massive waves of thousands of accounts. I guess because if you ban them one at a time or just ban a few, then they come up with something new right away because they know you're onto them. Or something.

Not saying that is or isn't what's happening here, just pointing out another recent game that had a similar situation

*edits for making the sentence make sense

Ohhh...this makes sense. Why did I not think of this? I really hope this is what SE is doing because I'm sick of seeing people I've reported as bots still in the game.

ETA: They may also need to gather sufficient evidence to build a case and look for patterns in behavior so that they will know what to reinforce/fix in the future.

[SeleneVenizelos]

How to counter the teleporting: Add a minimum time between each gather location that somebody running between spots is unlikely to be below; but people trying to cheat and move quicker will most likely exceed. How about 10 seconds? I can think of perhaps two spots where I would be likely to regularly go below this.

How to stop botting: Make the gathering box UI window when you start at a new location move to a random part of your screen. Slightly annoying, perhaps, but it'll stop all these wonderfully coded click bots from working.

What NOT TO DO PLEASE SE: Add gathering fatigue.