What solution could a player offer to the botting problem, other than kill all the bots? You best believe no body muttered a single suggestion to kill the fisher outside of se's circle of stupidity.
What solution could a player offer to the botting problem, other than kill all the bots? You best believe no body muttered a single suggestion to kill the fisher outside of se's circle of stupidity.
I hope SOE finds a way to kill these bots and gil sellers they are seriously messing with the games economy
I was mining last night to get a start on my Alchemy and there were more bots mining the area than players. I reported them all but it was pretty depressing to witness. I don't know enough about programming to offer a solution. All I can do is hope SE is serious about rectifying the situation.
This thread contradicts itself. Bots and gill sellers don't crash markets. They prefer to have them crazy inflated so people have the impression they need to buy gill to do anything.
Fleece is a gill sellers dream come true. Flooding a game with mats on par with vendor rates hurts gill sellers.
Markets work off of supply and demand. Artificially generate supply (through botting), and you hurt market prices because supply exceeds demand. Also, you make it sound like botters work together, as opposed to compete with one another, which they do (gil spammers are often advertising competing websites).This thread contradicts itself. Bots and gill sellers don't crash markets. They prefer to have them crazy inflated so people have the impression they need to buy gill to do anything.
Fleece is a gill sellers dream come true. Flooding a game with mats on par with vendor rates hurts gill sellers.
You are talking in circles. It still doesn't explain how glutting the markets benefits any RMT operation in FF14. While I can see it being damaging to someone trying to make gill as a gatherer and it could be viewed as an exploit, it's not tied to RMT or gill sellers.Markets work off of supply and demand. Artificially generate supply (through botting), and you hurt market prices because supply exceeds demand. Also, you make it sound like botters work together, as opposed to compete with one another, which they do (gil spammers are often advertising competing websites).
I just got a tell from one of the xzab chars trying to sell me crystals for RL cash. If that's the best they have to work with? They be screwed.
Last edited by Ksenia; 09-19-2013 at 06:20 AM.
Look, there is going to be botters and gil spammers, I can come to terms with that. They will pop up faster than they can be ban hammered. Whatever.
But when there is a massive amount of botters, and they are using exploits to teleport node to node, then NO that is infuriating! How can anyone put up with that??
reported 3 mining bots yesterday and today they are still there mining their gil
SE doesn't care?
After GW2 launched, ppl thought they weren't* doing* anything, but in reality they were watching and learning what methods the people use to bot/hack/spam and working on ways to counter them. They would then wait a while and ban them all in massive waves of thousands of accounts. I guess because if you ban them one at a time or just ban a few, then they come up with something new right away because they know you're onto them. Or something.
Not saying that is or isn't what's happening here, just pointing out another recent game that had a similar situation
*edits for making the sentence make sense
Ohhh...this makes sense. Why did I not think of this? I really hope this is what SE is doing because I'm sick of seeing people I've reported as bots still in the game.After GW2 launched, ppl thought they weren't* doing* anything, but in reality they were watching and learning what methods the people use to bot/hack/spam and working on ways to counter them. They would then wait a while and ban them all in massive waves of thousands of accounts. I guess because if you ban them one at a time or just ban a few, then they come up with something new right away because they know you're onto them. Or something.
Not saying that is or isn't what's happening here, just pointing out another recent game that had a similar situation
*edits for making the sentence make sense
ETA: They may also need to gather sufficient evidence to build a case and look for patterns in behavior so that they will know what to reinforce/fix in the future.
Last edited by Sivara; 09-20-2013 at 05:44 AM.
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