A Warrior Tanking Compendium?

[HiirNoivl]

Oh yeah forgot about the combo reset on top of no enmity multipliers. Would you agree not to use fracture outside of a DPS scenario?

Yes. I only use it if I'm pushing DPS with Unchained. It's not worth it otherwise. Also, I use it right before Unchained wears so that damage continues after Defiance nerf is reimposed.

[Kitru]

Fracture also Uses TP and Interrupts your Combos! :O

Which is why you use it when you've finished a combo (note that I said: BB>SE>Fracture>BB>SE). If you have to worry about TP, you're doing something wrong, like spamming the living hell out of Overpower.

[HiirNoivl]

Well, yeah but you have to take that into consideration. Unchained is the Holy Grail of damage, you don't want to interrupt your combo putting that DoT on.

I have nothing against Fracture. I just view it as pure DPS and tack it on only if it's the right time and really worth it. (Buffed with something like Berserk).

I'm going to run out of posts again. *sigh*

[TheAngryEwok]

Has anyone really found out what works best for Warriors, stat wise yet? I've read so many mixed things about what you should spec your 30 points into.

[Aleisterz]

Like TheAngryEwok said.. I'd like to ask the same thing, where do you think points should go? I myself have tried the 30 points into strength for a bit before today switching to 30 points into vitality.. and I'll be testing that out... I'm concerned with having such a larger vitality HP pool and lacking strength that I may face some of the things HiirNoivl was mentioning and end up being more squishy of a tank.
My main concern is the tanking (I do tanking just fine but I am always looking to improve) and not dps as HiirNoivl said.. We are tanks but we are tanks that tank by smashing the foe's face inside out which makes me wonder how the attribute points should be place and how accessories should be handle? Feel free to direct me to another thread, I just couldn't find a thread that had what I was looking for and felt that this didn't need its very own thread.

[HiirNoivl]

I tested 15/15 Stat Allocation and my Self heals and DPS were good but not great...

I'm currently working with 20/10 Str/Vit Stat Allocation with Vit accessories.

I still have more HP than a PLD, but it was scary at first, because I'm missing about 1000 HP that I had before (I went from about 7700 with Defiance to 6700 with defiance). I have to Self Heal a lot more, but at the same time, my self heals are a lot bigger.

And what's more amazing is that I'm actually getting healed less. When I had 8k HP all the time, though I always mentioned to my resident WHMs that they didn't need to cure that much, what happened was that the urge to fill my bar overwrote the actual need to fill my bar and led to wasted curing. And then my inability to self-heal added to the emergency level when I actually did need curing.

My greater and frequent self cures as well as my lower Max HP have benefitted the mages, even though they still say that they cure me more than a PLD still. But the big difference is in the fights. AK runs now hover between 20-25 minutes. Trash pulls still are my weakness but the bosses just don't stand a chance with the Demon Wall dying at Add spawn and the Psychflayer dying on Big Golem Spawn, and the Lizard Thing Dying before the 3rd Imminent Disaster. The fights go a lot faster because my efforts at Self-healing needs encourage me to DPS as much as possible, using Berserk, Second Wind, Internal Release, and Unchained in different combos with Bloodbath and Inner Beast, which is the biggest attack of a melee DD outside of a combo.

Edit: Adding here that I'm still getting a feel for things with my new stats. Enmity is great. I can usually grab good amounts of hate on group. But I get beaten so badly when pulling groups. Bosses and single targets are just fine but those groups of adds, like 3 Sleeping Vordi-whatsits in AK, knocking on me at the same time, really put me in the danger zone and using my cool downs. So what I'm forced to do is Flash and Overpower once and then start working on a single mob and just plain killing it, then using Inner Beast on another mob that I'm about to lose hate on. Inner Beast will cure me back up and get me a good chunk of hate.

So it plays a lot differently than I was doing before. No more mob cycling. Just kill all the things.

[mcfuzzi]

So it plays a lot differently than I was doing before. No more mob cycling. Just kill all the things.

That's what i was hoping war would turn into. I am starting to feel pretty bad about leveling war, I love the class, but I don't want to be a drain on other people. I like to tank, but I also want to make sure that I am not hindering everyone else's game, I don't want other to take me out of pity, or hurt their game play just so I can be a war.

[The_Brute]

I'm currently working with 20/10 Str/Vit Stat Allocation with Vit accessories.
I still have more HP than a PLD, but it was scary at first, because I'm missing about 1000 HP that I had before (I went from about 7700 with Defiance to 6700 with defiance). I have to Self Heal a lot more, but at the same time, my self heals are a lot bigger.

Edit: Adding here that I'm still getting a feel for things with my new stats. Enmity is great. I can usually grab good amounts of hate on group. But I get beaten so badly when pulling groups. Bosses and single targets are just fine but those groups of adds, knocking on me at the same time, really put me in the danger zone and using my cool downs.

As a fresh 50 my HP is far lower then yours, roughly 5200, although i have been putting all my points into VIT. As someone just entering the higher level dungeons would the increased VIT still be in my favor? Or would you say that 20/10 seems to be a happy medium?

[Wangstrong]

I tested 15/15 Stat Allocation and my Self heals and DPS were good but not great...

I'm currently working with 20/10 Str/Vit Stat Allocation with Vit accessories.

I still have more HP than a PLD, but it was scary at first, because I'm missing about 1000 HP that I had before (I went from about 7700 with Defiance to 6700 with defiance). I have to Self Heal a lot more, but at the same time, my self heals are a lot bigger.

You're so full of it. Everything you post is garbage and completely false. What, 20 vit somehow equates to 1000 HP for you? Are you intentionally lying or do you just have a very loose grasp of how the game works? Was it also you who wrote that 20 strength gave you an increase of 27 DPS? For someone who posts so frequently and vocally about tanks, I can't believe how flat out wrong you are. Everything you post is just complete nonsense. I have never read a post by you that didn't make me shake my head in disbelief.

[TheAngryEwok]

Good to see people trying to work this out. And I agree, I love being a Warrior, but I don't want to be the one hindering a group just because this is the tank that I wanted to play. I mean I can always level up Gladiator and unlock Paladin but it will take even longer to do.