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    Suggestion: Account's and RMT Spam. (since I cant post in the feedback section)

    Hello Dev's, and SE people. (if you guys even view the New Player Forums)

    How much would it affect player accounts if you guys were to make Key-Generator's such as the Digipass Required for Accounts? Is this something you can do?

    I know its not going to stop people from being idiots and going to the RMT's websites (and then getting their accounts stolen). But it would cut down on the number of stolen accounts, which would cut down on the RMT spam as 90% of the Names I report every day (or every few hours if i want to be honest about it) are those of stolen accounts. (i can tell their stolen ones as the names are not simple random letters thrown together in 5 seconds)

    The RMT Asshats are in the game to 'make' money, if they have to keep spending 50$ (or however much the game costs now) in order to spam away, they wont be so fast to spam people mass-market wise.

    The reason we see so many lately is because they are getting accounts to use (and get banned) for 'free' by stealing them from the idiots that go to their websites.

    If you REQUIRED all accounts to have 'some type' of Digipass, either the official one, or even the Google one (or any of the free ones), this might cut down on how many 'free' accounts the RMT asshats can use to spam us with.

    Just a thought, And I wonder why none of the MMO's out today Require these yet.. its not like their expensive to get (the google one is FREE!), and its an added security feature not a hindrance.

    How about you players?... Think this is something that should be required on accounts? Anyone else feel as i do and think requiring digi-passes are long-overdue? Some free-to-play games require 'pin-numbers' (such as Aion and a few of the Perfect World Entertainment games), but these are nothing more than extra passwords, they dont 'change' randomly like the Digi-passes do.
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    Last edited by Rahspdoy; 09-15-2013 at 11:17 AM.

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    The problem with that is the same reason a lot of MMO's don't do it.

    People

    People will whine and complain all day about bots but the moment you make logging in take longer, the complain worse then when they were angry about the bots.

    I know its stupid. But the moment you make a online pass key mandatory, people act like you just asked them to remove their arm. I use the code generator app they suggest. Works just fine. If you choose NOT to use it, it your own fault if you get hacked.
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    you can already get it http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/otp/ but they can't force it on people
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisaCeliousa View Post
    you can already get it http://www.square-enix.com/na/account/otp/ but they can't force it on people
    I have the keychain one from FFXIV 1.0

    What im suggesting is they make it mandatory for the accounts, And they CAN make it mandatory if they chose to, just as they make passwords mandatory. Its their game, their client, they can add however many layers of security they wish. If it 'might' reduce some of the spam from the RMT's im all for making it mandatory, if nothing else it'll force people to understand just how insecure 'fixed' passwords are today.
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    If not that generator, people should have phones with text messaging now. They can do the password through their cellphones easily enough. I did that and my keychain is just a decoration because of that but at least my account is safe

    It's effective because you have to generate the temp password each time you install and/or access the game on a different computer. So even if someone that had hacked the account tried to activate it, if it was tied to your phone, you would get a text about it and not the RMT crew that had hacked your account. Sadly most people are too lazy to go through with this...their own fault if they get hacked and banned. Because there's a free (or really cheap depending on phone plan) alternative to the keychains.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zareth View Post
    If not that generator, people should have phones with text messaging now. They can do the password through their cellphones easily enough. I did that and my keychain is just a decoration because of that but at least my account is safe

    It's effective because you have to generate the temp password each time you install and/or access the game on a different computer. So even if someone that had hacked the account tried to activate it, if it was tied to your phone, you would get a text about it and not the RMT crew that had hacked your account. Sadly most people are too lazy to go through with this...their own fault if they get hacked and banned. Because there's a free (or really cheap depending on phone plan) alternative to the keychains.
    Even if they dont do the verifying by Text, there are Key-generators (such as the keychain) for both the Android and the Iphone based smartphones. I think even some of them are available online (go to a website, get the key-code generated).

    Either way, i honestly feel its about time the MMO Developer/Hoster community starts making these types of random-generated keychain/apps mandatory on their game accounts.
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    Some do not have a smart phone. I am one of those people. I don't need one. An extra 10 bucks for some being mandatory for the key fob thing would make people think twice about the game just because they do not have a smart phone to get the app for free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixiey View Post
    Some do not have a smart phone. I am one of those people. I don't need one. An extra 10 bucks for some being mandatory for the key fob thing would make people think twice about the game just because they do not have a smart phone to get the app for free.
    $11 for the square one, and Blizzard has one for $6.50, is a SMALL price to pay to help secure your account, especially since both games have a sub, and spammers are more motivated to hack than just create free accounts like in f2p or games with trials. I'm going to say what i'm sure would be said anyway, if you can't afford ten dollar key, perhaps playing a game with a monthly sub isn't for you, and time should be spent doing better than playing games.

    I got mine in the 1.0CE, and also have a SWtOR one from that CE too (i use the blizzard phone one). I'm not sure why with how many troubles have happened from this, they just don't put them in all physical copies. Even if it would increase the cost by $10, seems worth it. Heck, it's one of the reasons i buy CE versions that have them now, just to know i've got one when i get the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixiey View Post
    Some do not have a smart phone. I am one of those people. I don't need one. An extra 10 bucks for some being mandatory for the key fob thing would make people think twice about the game just because they do not have a smart phone to get the app for free.
    As Rabbitzero said. A one-time payment of 8$-10$, on a game that has a 14.99$ a month subscription... is not that much of an 'extra' cost. Especially when you look at it from the point that they 'give' you the first month (30 days) of your subscription for free just for buying the game. If anything that 14.99$ you save for those first 30 days can be considered 'spent' for the key-gen.
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    Last edited by Rahspdoy; 09-16-2013 at 04:47 AM.