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    Player Noroi_Kisaragi's Avatar
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    Noroi Kisaragi
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    Pugilist Lv 65

    FF14 NEEDS Guild Wars 2's culling system

    In guild wars 2, enemies in the overworld are given drawing priority over players at all times, meaning enemies never go invisible Ever. In FF14, if you enter a large scale FATE, good luck finding the enemies! (This is an even bigger problem on ps3).

    I don't understand why Square hasn't implemented this system. When you enter a FATE and the only thing you can see are chocobos and minions, that's a problem. The priority chain should go: Enemies -> Party Members -> Other Players -> Other Players Minions. Anything else just doesn't make sense.

    Again, GW2 already has this system and disappearing enemies is not a problem on that game because of it. I'd like to see something similar in ff14. And additionally, an option to hide all minions of other players would help tremendously too.
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    Vesper's Avatar
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    Narshala Beaumont
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Server issues aside this is one of the biggest mistakes imo. You should never not see the Fate mob/boss and once server/login/stability issues are fixed this needs to be prioritized. IMO the order for drawn should be Mobs > Party > Guild Mates > Everyone else.
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    Midnight Infinity
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    Bard Lv 80
    Yeah have to agree on this, could be improved.
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    Lucky Ale
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    This isn't really a Guild Wars 2 thing, it's the way things have been handled forever. I have no idea why their priority for displaying seems backwards. I think it's Pets > PCs > NPCs > Monsters right now.
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    Meg Xori
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    I agree I was doing Behemoth and I couldent target him or see where he was facing. Also couldent heal the tank due to him going invis on me.
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    Syberus Blakhart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noroi_Kisaragi View Post
    an option to hide all minions of other players would help tremendously too.
    This. I've got my targeting set up for just Enemies/Aggroed enemies, but for some @#%^ing reason the targeting still cycles through those gd carbuncles.
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    Sheanna Chenoah
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    if they cant use that system, could they at least use a graying out style? offer it as an option maybe.
    (like when you use stealth as a gatherer so you can collect in higher areas, you go all see thru)
    if players were un-targetable in that manner, unless they were NPCs or Party memebers it would definately make it easier to know what to hit and what to heal in a FATE ect.

    also, can we find a way for the quest icons to STOP VANISHING! its hard enough some days seeing the character, but when their ! mark vanishes into the clusterfrak of players and you are runing from memory, its hard. sure, turn it off again once the population goes down but man. unless im lucky and its all tall NPCs askign for help i cant see a thing. server help you if your quest giver is a lalafell.... *hands out soapboxes to all Lalafell NPCs*
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    Scarletyoshi's Avatar
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    Carmine Cavatina
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    Hyperion
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    They probably didn't foresee that a lot of people would want to fight the same monster at once so it didn't occur to them to do so. A lot of that going around.
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    Haru Miaru
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    They do have culling but it is of the wrong sort.

    The culling priotises the display of PC characters rather than NPC and enemies.
    If you go to a packed camp like the ones on main story missions you cant see any npc unless you are two feet in front of it.
    During the beta's and early access i could see them from 100 meters away.

    As you move closer to the target you watch everything else dissapear

    It should prioritise the display of enemies and NPC over PC characters then it would be perfect.
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    Vander Castan
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    So...I'm the only one that can see all mobs at all times? Interesting *writes note to self to congratulate self on GPU purchase*.
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