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  1. #11
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    HumsterMKX's Avatar
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    Helinin Landgravine
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    Masamune
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 70
    I was a SCH at the Chimera FATE. I dot chim and cure whoever tanking or get AOE. I end up gold with an Imp baby. Kinda sucks since my LSmates think I slept around with imps.

    Curing does get you points. But plain dps will net you more.
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  2. #12
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    chubnasty's Avatar
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    Venin Asag
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    it's not someones responsibility to go around healing people. if you want to tank that fate boss then you better have a healer first and not expect things from people. as stated a few times there are times when healers don't get as much credit by simply healing and I know this for a fact because it has happened to me more times then not.

    if im in a fate i'll heal my party members and myself when needed but i wont be primarily healing anybody.

    **edit:
    also, on a side note, until you start paying for peoples subscriptions and paying them to play you have no real say on how they should play. i agree there are roles people need to fill but at the end of the day they're playing the game to have fun and get the most out of their money spent.
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    Last edited by chubnasty; 09-16-2013 at 12:06 AM.

  3. #13
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    xwmstormx's Avatar
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    Tantum Hice
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 47
    You will run into this now and then. So be sure to carry some good health potions or a pocket healer just in case.

    As for me I rarely heal during a FATE anymore. I used to run around healing anybody who needed it. Which is what I like to do and they needed some curing. What started happening was that I would get multiple mob aggro from the people I was healing or get adds from wherever. Which is fine because I'm sure those good people I healed earlier will see me in need of help and then come to assist me... Right?... Nope! They always ran off to kill some other mob or left me to fend for myself. This started happening a lot and I had no other option than to disable player health bars and stop healing anyone outside of fellow party members.

    So in my case tanks/dps not helping me when I was helping them kind of ruined it for themselves.
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  4. #14
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    moody's Avatar
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    Singing Vein
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 46
    As a scholar I heal whoever has aggro if they're holding it on large boss fates. This is fine because I can still mainly DPS and just heal them at opportunity and still come out gold.

    However, in general fates I don't focus on healing at all. Nobody is in my party so targeting is a pain and focusing only on healing is a pretty sure way to get silver or lower.

    On top of that, this:
    Quote Originally Posted by redisdrunk View Post
    It goes both ways.

    I love to micro-manage healing during a FATE, but I've found every time I start doing it I've got aggro coming at me from all sides. And absolutely no DPS or Tanks stepping forward to assist. At end tier FATEs, it quickly goes from healing other players to keeping myself standing and kiting as I quickly draw enmity from multiple mobs by healing multiple melee players.
    If you want me to heal someone needs to be covering my aggro. That isn't happening.
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    Last edited by moody; 09-16-2013 at 12:25 AM.

  5. #15
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    Zakalwe's Avatar
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    Lapsed Pacifist
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    Adamantoise
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    Botanist Lv 51
    The only time I think it's reasonable to expect heals in a Fate is when it a single boss type and you are tanking. And not dedicated healing, only now and then.
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  6. #16
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    redisdrunk's Avatar
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    Alcee Briarcastle
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    It goes both ways.

    I love to micro-manage healing during a FATE, but I've found every time I start doing it I've got aggro coming at me from all sides. And absolutely no DPS or Tanks stepping forward to assist. At end tier FATEs, it quickly goes from healing other players to keeping myself standing and kiting as I quickly draw enmity from multiple mobs by healing multiple melee players.

    I have no issues with the mechanics of that; healing draws aggro and that's fine. I do have issues with "Healers aren't doing their jobs!". Well, we can't heal when we're dead and the melee we're trying to help rarely get our backs in a FATE.
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  7. #17
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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by moody View Post
    If you want me to heal someone needs to be covering my aggro. That isn't happening.
    Cannot stress this enough. If I fulltime heal on one of the few fates that actually needs it, I typically get little reward and end up tanking/kiting half of the zone into the bargain. So uh, it's both easier and more rewarding to just mindlessly spam Stone. No wonder that's what most sensible people choose to do.
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  8. #18
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    Anakhu Dalmasca
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ZemusM View Post
    Its not that simple. Some FATES are just broken when it comes to how it rewards people. I have run into a boss fate at the last 20% also and casted Aero and gotten a GOLD. There are serious issues with how the rewards are handled on the majority of FATES that need to be looked at. I have sat there and cured the Tank again and again and gotten bronze only for the next time to do DPS and get gold in LESS TIME.

    The reward mechanics for healing are essentially broken, while strange things like Casting Aero ONCE net a gold which makes no sense at all doing like 1 tick of dmg.
    I have received some pretty odd gold medals myself too. As a tank I have ran into a fate late on occasion and come out with gold and high xp reward and all I did was HELP kill 1 add o.0
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  9. #19
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    Evangela's Avatar
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    Evangela Monterossa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 90
    Healing will award us nothing. so we just need to do damage.
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  10. #20
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    Feathery's Avatar
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    Perceptive Mavina
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    As someone who has both a SCH and WHM and has leveled up no DD classes I can tell you a 100% sure that healing DOES NOT award nearly as much contribution as DPSing. If you're in a party it's another story cause then you will earn contribution from other party members action so long you are in the FATE at the same time as them, however when SOLOing fates I typically don't heal simply because that will net me nothing or a meager bronze.
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