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  1. #181
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    MrSmiley's Avatar
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    Crysta Elizabeth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordicai View Post
    Luckily for everyone, companies only make games for the sense of accomplishment and to cater to only one sub-set of fans.......

    If difficulty of content becomes a issue that costs SE subs, you better believe that the nerf hammer will come out. People wanting to strut their cool guy HM endgame elite club stuff means nothing to them, you are the minority and in a sub based game the math favors the casuals.
    The only successful sub "casual" mmo I can think of is WoW, and when it officially started its big turn into "casual" in wotlk was when it began its decline and has been in such ever since.

    You want people to want to keep their sub and be playing every month, not sub a month every few months to try out the new stuff. A look at recent mmo's success or failure as well as WoW's sub history only proves this. If players don't feel the need for a long term investment in the game, they won't stay constantly subbed. Name me all the successful pay to play mmos you can think of that are casual, excluding wow (which I also addressed above, was at its peaks before it was over-casualized has declined ever since).

    I will agree accessibility is important and bars should never be set too high or it will be forever niche, but over-doing the opposite side will result in a similar fall albeit in a slightly different way.
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  2. #182
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    Tanaya's Avatar
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    Tanaya Makers
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    Always knew this was gonna happen. I'm just surprised this is going to happen so soon.

    So soon it's pretty ridiculous.
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  3. #183
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    ElaintheShy's Avatar
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    Ovrlord Etna
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    please make it so when i get outta red, I don't get hit by red.... that will make the game the correct difficulty
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  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaintheShy View Post
    please make it so when i get outta red, I don't get hit by red.... that will make the game the correct difficulty
    It really should do this client side... I haven't had much issue with it, but people with even slightly laggy connections have dodging automatically made that much harder, which is silly
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  5. #185
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    Olober Parabellum
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElaintheShy View Post
    please make it so when i get outta red, I don't get hit by red.... that will make the game the correct difficulty
    Fully agree with that. Game isn't too hard or too easy, it's ok, so as titan fight. But that latency thing is killing all the fun from this game.
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  6. #186
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrSmiley View Post
    The only successful sub "casual" mmo I can think of is WoW, and when it officially started its big turn into "casual" in wotlk was when it began its decline and has been in such ever since.

    You want people to want to keep their sub and be playing every month, not sub a month every few months to try out the new stuff. A look at recent mmo's success or failure as well as WoW's sub history only proves this. If players don't feel the need for a long term investment in the game, they won't stay constantly subbed. Name me all the successful pay to play mmos you can think of that are casual, excluding wow (which I also addressed above, was at its peaks before it was over-casualized has declined ever since).

    I will agree accessibility is important and bars should never be set too high or it will be forever niche, but over-doing the opposite side will result in a similar fall albeit in a slightly different way.
    It actually had its sub peak in WotLK (which happens to be the most casual-friendly and accessible expansion they released). :-\ The subs didn't start to decline until the end (when ICC was out for a freaking year), and dropped even further when they tried to "go back to the good old days" with more punishing 5 man content. But revisionist history...
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  7. #187
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    Finally a thread I agree with. I am so over the Titan is too hard QQ threads. the way MMO's are these days everyone expected to get to 50 with full DL gear and a relic in a day... I hate the threads like "I started titan today It's impossible to move from skills."... you've been doing him for just one day.. The play style of FFXIV is different from other MMO's. you need to learn, adapt, focus, study. It took my team 8 days of fighting titan every night until we downed him. We had to learn rotations, alter our playing styles in different phases, switch our jobs and grind him until it all made sense. And that night when we beat him... My god did that feel amazing. At turn 2 of bahamuts coil now. have died at least 20 times... thoroughly enjoying myself.
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  8. #188
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    The endgame difficulty is fine (except Titan lag) but even though the story's not supposed to be hard, making battles you can't lose unless you are an idiot, is not the way to go here.
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  9. #189
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    Olober Parabellum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eccho View Post
    I am so over the Titan is too hard QQ threads.
    Most of them not about how hard titan is, it about being hit when you out of circle.
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  10. #190
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    J'zara Darkholme
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    So making harder would just make it unfriendly to the newer populations, so people quit in droves? how would that make it any better, you do realize not everyone enjoys tedious hard mode twich content right?

    I'm not personally against hard mode anything as long as i'm not forced to do it, to get to the rest of the game and being gated in my story at every dungeon isn't helping the situation.
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