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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aicasia View Post
    Because that's part of being human. Yeah, you know your achievements, you know what they mean to you, but they're worthless. Because if everyone is 'special', then no one is. If everyone is at the top, then they're also at the bottom. There should always be something that not everyone can just log on and do because they 'felt like it'.

    That's the whole damn point of a gear treadmill. That's the whole damn point of putting the carrot on the friggin' stick. If you can just grab everything, if you can just reach out and grab that carrot, then the designers are doing something wrong. An MMO that doesn't put things just out of your reach, that doesn't make you put in time and effort, is an MMO doomed to fail.

    There is a reason people say vanilla and Pre-2.4 TBC WoW were the best points in the game's history, and it wasn't that 'new mmo' smell.

    Nerfing content is fine, but not for the wrong reasons. Nerfing raids because casual X can't invest the time to find a group of people to do it with is a bad reason. If you can't put in the time why do you deserve the same level of gear? THAT is entitlement.
    Did you even play in TBC? You could pug just about everything except for maybe the end bosses in the raids, and Sunwell, of course (though plenty of people still farmed the crap out of trash in there). They nerfed those raids both by removing attunements, as well as by doing actual nerfs.

    Now it's nearly impossible to pug anything in WoW. And the subscription numbers are showing that strain.

    If you can get the carrot on that stick when the content is relevant, then I don't see why the carrot somehow isn't a carrot anymore if someone comes along six months later and gets another version of it.
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    Aicasia Corazon
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiadansWhisper View Post
    Casuals are a lifeblood to the economy - they feed the needs of hardcore raiders. This disdain for them is really misplaced. You are shooting yourselves in the foot by hating on them. You get your recruits from once-casual raiders that wanted more, and you get most of your materials from them.
    I don't have anything against casuals, but if they want the same gear as raiders they need to put in the same time and effort. I have something against laziness and entitlement though.
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    Last edited by Aicasia; 09-25-2013 at 11:11 AM.

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    Glus Plus
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    Well, the game has horrible latency in showing area of effect attacks and other specials.
    Sure, they can be memorized and avoided based on prediction. But I have to ask, how fun is that?
    It is one thing to think "oh no, I have to move now or should I finish this cast." vs "I have to move now because in approximately half a second red circle will appear, and If I do not move now I will die"
    The latter system currently in place actually makes the game more boring and if any fights are introduced that are truly random, some players will never pass them.
    On top of that, if you do not give casuals shinies, they will go to one of the many free to play games out there and spend more in the cash shop on shinies than they ever would on subs to this game.

    Games in this day and age need to be very casual accessible to be successful. As a person ages their reflexes deteriorate, and mmo players are increasingly older. They also have the most money, and you do not want to drive them away.
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    Cynthis Ravenbrook
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Aicasia View Post
    I don't have anything against casuals, but if they want the same gear as raiders they need to put in the same time and effort. I have something against laziness and entitlement though.
    How about the vast majority that don't have the reflexes, hand-eye coordination and ability to process all the information on screen regardless of how much they practice? Isn't it better they get a chance to do the content after it's become irrelevant to hardcore endgamers rather than the content being completely unused? Take pride in being among the first to do the content and don't begrudge the rest of us.
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    Tenebria Miku
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    I'm all for challenging content but this lag stuff making the fight harder than it should be is just ridiculous. Even being able to evade everything just fine it's just not fun for me at all having to constantly adjust for the rather huge lag this game has on pretty much everything

    You really want encounters to be challenging because of poor coding instead of challenging because they actually are?
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    Vladislav Bahamut
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    Balmung
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    My option - Dungeons must not get nerfed at all , because who want to run CM , Praetorium , AK with Sastasha difficulty LOL's !
    Ifrit (hard) - no nerf again , since it really easy like 1/2 win if Duty Finder .
    Garuda - Idk really , i winned this w/o any problems multiple times (used DF and was main tank paladin) , some peoples can't win this because can't understand phase 2 (?? or idk) - okay Garuda win 1~2% nerf maximum.
    Titan - i didn't win yet (but trying as hell everyday) , as paladin hard to get in shout group , no matter skills/gear , so useing DF 80% time (which about all was waste exept 1~2 learning drill days) : Titan 2% nerf on heart hp , and 1/4 reduce his ability cast/recast speed
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    King Berry
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    Well im done if they gonna nerf easy content that doesn't award players that don't know how to move I don't know what to say to this. Guess they made the decision for me to quit this game I don't want shit handed to me or things easier what the hell happen to this game geez.
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    Ulli Ona
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by KingBerry View Post
    Well im done if they gonna nerf easy content that doesn't award players that don't know how to move I don't know what to say to this. Guess they made the decision for me to quit this game I don't want shit handed to me or things easier what the hell happen to this game geez.
    a 5-10% nerf on primals wouldn't hurt. More then that..yeah. Don't.
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    Player ashikenshin's Avatar
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    Kyuyuna Shadowsun
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    then quit, I think they are already expecting locusts to drop off once they finish this content and come back when they release new one.
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    Oda Stillwind
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Content Difficulty Nerfs {Thanks for the offer, but I'll have to pass.}
    Fixes to Server Lag Issues {Yes, please.}
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