Dear Square Enix! Make the game harder, not easier!

[Coldbrand]

Babby edition.

[pochte]

The latency is whats killing most people, the fights give no room to breath and are hard for casuals or those who aren't elitist. Ifrit and Garuda could use a 5% nerf at most, while titan could use a 10% nerf. Ontop of that, make a gear check when you que up. You shouldn't even be able to que for titan unless you are full darklight.

IMO...
AK: darklight accs
ifrit: Darklight accessories + at least 3 pieces of AK armor
garuda: darklight accessories + at least 3 peices of Darklight
titan:full darklight or better, either previous primals weapon.

binding coil: darklight + at least garuda's weapon.

Dungeons need a gear check, at least for endgame.

[Nevik]

The latency is whats killing most people, the fights give no room to breath and are hard for casuals or those who aren't elitist. Ifrit and Garuda could use a 5% nerf at most, while titan could use a 10% nerf. Ontop of that, make a gear check when you que up. You shouldn't even be able to que for titan unless you are full darklight.

IMO...
AK: darklight accs
ifrit: Darklight accessories + at least 3 pieces of AK armor
garuda: darklight accessories + at least 3 peices of Darklight
titan:full darklight or better, either previous primals weapon.

binding coil: darklight + at least garuda's weapon.

Dungeons need a gear check, at least for endgame.

sorry, but I gotta stop you right there, for the primals I beat them in AF ... it's only for titan that I had DL and I wasn't even in full DL either... those fights are about learning the patterns and dodging!! ....

[pochte]

sorry, but I gotta stop you right there, for the primals I beat them in AF ... it's only for titan that I had DL and I wasn't even in full DL either... those fights are about learning the patterns and dodging!! ....

Good for you?
However, not everyone has the luck with ending w/ competent players, thus, the gear should be required as a test for going. DL takes maybe, 2 weeks to get the set? And a previous weapon shows determination to be better.
If you have the patience to deal with something like that, you deserve a shot at the weapon/relic/whatever.
And it's 2 weeks if you do 2-3 runs a day, seen some people do it in a 3 days so it's not to bad.
Just...something better then af. Cuz saw a tank enter in full AF with only 4.6k hp and he got oneshot. The gear is for the group not being a waste of time, and to give everyone a chance at winning.

[Nevik]

Good for you?
However, not everyone has the luck with ending w/ competent players.

it almost sounds like you're saying I was carried through all 3 primals, I must be very lucky then because I play as WHM, and it's very hard to carry a WHM ....but I'll leave it alone b/c there's no way you'll know how "competent" I am if we've never played together...

moving on, I'm not saying it's not a good idea to be "geared" I just don't like the idea of people selling that you MUST have XYZ gear in order to win a certain fight because believe me, in titan I've seen fully geared DL players still getting their ass blown up by lay of the land and even land slide

but then again I guess the gear just helped them survived the hit, didn't help me tho since I have to now use MP to heal or worst raise them....

[Aicasia]

it almost sounds like you're saying I was carried through all 3 primals, I must be very lucky then because I play as WHM, and it's very hard to carry a WHM ....but I'll leave it alone b/c there's no way you'll know how "competent" I am if we've never played together...

moving on, I'm not saying it's not a good idea to be "geared" I just don't like the idea of people selling that you MUST to have XYZ gear in other to win a certain fight because believe me, in titan I've see fully geared DL players still getting their ass blown up my lay of the land and even land slide

but then again I guess the gear just helped them survived the hit, didn't help me tho since I have to now use MP to heal or worst raise them....

It is actually very easy to carry a whm in 8man content outside of maybe the later Coil turns.

[pochte]

stuff.

I'm a whm myself, there is no way to carry you. However, it is easier to heal and do your job with people who are geared. So you probably got lucky there and havn't had to deal with people who think full af is ok for titan.
Ifrit fine, ok. He's a pattern boss 100% and gear isn't to important.
Garuda it starts to become important when people can be 1 shot by messing up once.
Titan is ridiculous because even with the best gear, this fight is still hard without people knowing what they are doing, and gear helps.

As the saying goes, the gear doesn't make the player, but it sure as heck helps!

[LiadansWhisper]

"Other people succeeding at this game makes me feel like I'm not a special snowflake. That's not fair! Make it too hard for the majority of people! I have to be a special snowflake!"

Yeah, shutting people out of actual content is sure working for WoW right now. :-)

And before you even start - no, LFR is not actual content.

The latency is whats killing most people, the fights give no room to breath and are hard for casuals or those who aren't elitist. Ifrit and Garuda could use a 5% nerf at most, while titan could use a 10% nerf. Ontop of that, make a gear check when you que up. You shouldn't even be able to que for titan unless you are full darklight.

IMO...
AK: darklight accs
ifrit: Darklight accessories + at least 3 pieces of AK armor
garuda: darklight accessories + at least 3 peices of Darklight
titan:full darklight or better, either previous primals weapon.

binding coil: darklight + at least garuda's weapon.

Dungeons need a gear check, at least for endgame.

I really don't think they need a nerf. They need to fix the latency issues where the server is "seeing" people at a different position than the player is seeing (primarily because the sync is off). They said they fixed it, but they haven't.

Just warning, nerfing old content every time new content comes out is a good way to make players feel their achievements mean nothing, which is bad for an mmo. Speeding up progressions somehow (though not too quickly) is a better direction to take as opposed to simply making it easier/easy which makes players feel their effort was wasted and likely less liable to redo with other players.

Why try not when it will be handed out later?

edit: also, if your going to make harder content while making older content easier, doesn't that create an odd jump in difficultly for players who come in late?

I've never understood this mindset.

What you achieve when content is "relevant" will never be taken away from you. Why does it matter what others achieve when they outgear the content you tackled when you were undergeared?

Why does it matter to you if other people get to down the boss, and get some shiny loot? You already got your shiny loot. Stop being so damn selfish and insecure.

[pochte]

I really don't think they need a nerf. They need to fix the latency issues where the server is "seeing" people at a different position than the player is seeing (primarily because the sync is off). They said they fixed it, but they haven't.

The small % nerf would be to counteract the lag people get, cuz as a healer half the time i don't see the double/triple aoe go off until all 3 have and by then theres plumes spawned and it makes it even more difficult to heal. You wanna know WHY whm/sch never try and join this fight? BECAUSE IT SUCKS AS A HEALER AND WE DO NOT LIKE TO DO IT. ^^
Everything else while it can be challenging, it's fun. Titan is just evil.

[Aicasia]

I've never understood this mindset.

What you achieve when content is "relevant" will never be taken away from you. Why does it matter what others achieve when they outgear the content you tackled when you were undergeared?

Why does it matter to you if other people get to down the boss, and get some shiny loot? You already got your shiny loot. Stop being so damn selfish and insecure.

Because that's part of being human. Yeah, you know your achievements, you know what they mean to you, but they're worthless. Because if everyone is 'special', then no one is. If everyone is at the top, then they're also at the bottom. There should always be something that not everyone can just log on and do because they 'felt like it'.

That's the whole damn point of a gear treadmill. That's the whole damn point of putting the carrot on the friggin' stick. If you can just grab everything, if you can just reach out and grab that carrot, then the designers are doing something wrong. An MMO that doesn't put things just out of your reach, that doesn't make you put in time and effort, is an MMO doomed to fail.

There is a reason people say vanilla and Pre-2.4 TBC WoW were the best points in the game's history, and it wasn't that 'new mmo' smell.

Nerfing content is fine, but not for the wrong reasons. Nerfing raids because casual X can't invest the time to find a group of people to do it with is a bad reason. If you can't put in the time why do you deserve the same level of gear? THAT is entitlement.