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  1. #101
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correl View Post
    I had a question I was hoping someone could answer. I know it says that the Fairy's stats are based on yours when summoned and don't get changed over time (IE swapping to Cleric Stance doesn't nerf their heals), but does the same rules apply to temp buffs you put on yourself when they are summoned? For example, if I pop an HQ'd X-Potion of Mind and then summon the fairy, will she maintain the +84 mind bonus from the potion as long as she is summoned? If so, does anyone know how much that increases their healing output and is it worth the hassle?
    I've never tried that, and I've never heard of it working, so I doubt it. It might work, but it sounds like that could just be an easy abuse (I'm pretty sure I remember something similar with SMNs though, where you can ramp up their egis stats, but then after you use rouse or spur and it wears off, their stats go back to what they'd normally be)

    Quote Originally Posted by Akyio View Post
    i'm a bit confused as to whether i need to macro my fairy or not. i have actually put both fairies into obey and have their abilities macroed like this: i just have fairy heal simply on hotbar. i wanted to pair with it adloq and physick separely but i decided that i will just put it nearby my adloq and physic icons so it takes less space and i can manually click it and also count the cooldown.
    for eos i have her defence buff and healing buff macroed in one icon, so two clicks will make them both happen. and i have rouse coupled with aoe heal as well in one button which without any /wait instantly casts aoe heal on me. its pretty amazing.

    with selene its horrible. all i want is to have little more control on her heal(embrace). but for the rest i can just keep her in sic mode and dont need full control over her. im more of a selene fan because of how she boosts dps.. i just wish SE made abilities possible to cast without putting pets in obey mode. all i want is more control on heal dont want to manually be counting cooldowns on buffs and reapplying them.
    I wish we could control the fairies without being in obey mode too :/ I'm not sure how easy it is to control fairies with a keyboard (I assume you're using keyboard), I don't macro a lot of their abilities because I play with a gamepad, and it's incredibly easy to switch back and forth to my pet bar so there isnt much need for me to macro a lot of the abilities.
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  2. #102
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    I'm here to say thanks too. I leveled the trinity, first DRG, then PLD and now reached 50 on Scholar. Out of the 3, SCH is by far my favorite class. I love the multi tasking that goes into it, and getting commendations means I'm at least doing something right, lol. One dungeon I find incredibly difficult is Arum Vale, the one with the Malboro and fruits. I ALWAYS lose my faerie and a teammate or 2 (thankful for sure cast). Just wondering if some content is geared more toward WHM than others? I have no interest going past 35 in it. Tips?
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  3. #103
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggnook24 View Post
    I'm here to say thanks too. I leveled the trinity, first DRG, then PLD and now reached 50 on Scholar. Out of the 3, SCH is by far my favorite class. I love the multi tasking that goes into it, and getting commendations means I'm at least doing something right, lol. One dungeon I find incredibly difficult is Arum Vale, the one with the Malboro and fruits. I ALWAYS lose my faerie and a teammate or 2 (thankful for sure cast). Just wondering if some content is geared more toward WHM than others? I have no interest going past 35 in it. Tips?
    I havent done AV in a long time, but I was under the impression they changed that boss quite some time ago because it was so difficult for SCHs, I thought they made it so the fairy wasnt affected by the stacks or something. When did you last do it?
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  4. #104
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correl View Post
    I had a question I was hoping someone could answer. I know it says that the Fairy's stats are based on yours when summoned and don't get changed over time (IE swapping to Cleric Stance doesn't nerf their heals), but does the same rules apply to temp buffs you put on yourself when they are summoned? For example, if I pop an HQ'd X-Potion of Mind and then summon the fairy, will she maintain the +84 mind bonus from the potion as long as she is summoned? If so, does anyone know how much that increases their healing output and is it worth the hassle?
    As soon as you will use rouse she should get back to normal stats, at least that how it works as SMN if I recall correctly
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  5. #105
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I havent done AV in a long time, but I was under the impression they changed that boss quite some time ago because it was so difficult for SCHs, I thought they made it so the fairy wasnt affected by the stacks or something. When did you last do it?
    Last night. And I received my first vote kick. The part was having a hard time eating the fruits, and Standing in the yellow, but it just seemed succor and wd weren't helping, while focusing on the Tank (War), not sure he was using stacks or not. No one even said anything to me, was just dismissed.
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  6. #106
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    And my fairy was TOTALLY taking damage, had to recall her twice.
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  7. #107
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    Well like I said I havent done it in a very long time, I can't remember how difficult it was even after the change. I imagine the usual tricks would help- keep stoneskin on all your dps for when aoe hits, positioning the fairy somewhere she can reach everyone for embrace and using your mitigation abilities on the tank. Although it is possible they weren't using fruits. There's plenty of fights where people just charge through and ignore mechanics because 'lol healer just keep us alive'
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  8. #108
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    Well like I said I havent done it in a very long time, I can't remember how difficult it was even after the change. I imagine the usual tricks would help- keep stoneskin on all your dps for when aoe hits, positioning the fairy somewhere she can reach everyone for embrace and using your mitigation abilities on the tank. Although it is possible they weren't using fruits. There's plenty of fights where people just charge through and ignore mechanics because 'lol healer just keep us alive'
    That may be the case, tank kept repeating "eat the fruit after 2 stacks", but my fairy was set on heel/obey, so when I succored and wd, I ran to the center of the group (I know, should have placed EoS, but she was taking so much damage as it was.) will placing my pet next to tank really help?
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  9. #109
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    I remember placing the fairy during the fruit fights to save myself worrying about her pruning up in goldbile bubble baths. She's pretty hard to kill except by special mechanics (e.g. goldbile pools) and single target attacks. In most situations where she takes damage, I end up using Sustain not so much because I think she'll die but to stop her from Embracing herself while idle instead of prioritizing players ("Bye Felicia Stance: Activated!).
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  10. #110
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    Ayukawa Madoka
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    For the food/buffs stuff. Food and stat potions are not applied to pets when summoned, only your base stats and stats from gear are applied.
    Rouse does not recalculate egi/fairy stats, Spur does but spur is smn exclusive. So if you wanted you could swap from crit to det gear or something when summoning Eos/Selene to have her focus on another stat if you wanted for whatever reason.
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