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  1. #91
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    Colette Pascal
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    I did some testing with Eos last night. None of her skills queue up and none of them can be cast during embrace. For Eos, I've actually redone all my macros to have a second and third cast with 1 second waits, which guarantees it will go off during the next 1 second cooldown for embrace.

    A little disclaimer: I have tested the non-macro version of embrace and it doesn't queue. I haven't tested the non-macro versions of all the other skills.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I use Embrace macros for Adlo and Physick (handy also because they double as simple Embrace hotkeys when you interrupt your own cast and want to split heal). However, I generally prefer the fairy to be independent while I DPS rather than being forced to heal a specific target, even if the tank is usually a safe bet. If I want to keep the tank topped off, I swap my target in the middle of DPS hard casts and force Embraces with my single-target heal macros.
    I agree on the dps part. Also, if you bind embrace to your attacks and switch to targeting an enemy instead of the tank, then your fairy will heal herself.
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  3. #93
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    Dijana Menatas
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    Zurvan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Question for OP:

    Some recent theorycrafting data (not on this forum, obviously) suggests that Selene's buffs only give the party about a 1.8~2.0% DPS boost. That's with perfect buff uptime, which having Selene on Obey is going to be hard to do.

    Others will claim anywhere from a 3% to 8% dps boost, but I haven't seen such claims backed by any data.

    With a DPS boost of <= 2.0%... Do you still think Selene is worth it endgame, particularly giving up the ability to manually cast/precast embrace?
    I haven't updated selene's stuff, and I havent really done any testing with that recently. To be honest, in current endgame you should probably be using eos anyway. In easier stuff (dungeons, HM primals) you dont really need eos so you might as well use selene for the little bit of extra dps. I imagine that as stats get higher as more and more new gear comes out, spell and skill speed will likely be more important so selene will see more use.
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  4. #94
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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    I think Selene is fairly underwhelming and could use more utility. She's the more efficient option for when your party executes mechanics perfectly, but her impact on shorter fights is very minimal. I find her practical, but boring.

    I hope SCH gets a new fairy option soon. Doesn't have to be OP, just something a little different.
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  5. #95
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    Dijana Menatas
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    Zurvan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    I hope SCH gets a new fairy option soon. Doesn't have to be OP, just something a little different.
    A debuff fairy would be fun
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  6. #96
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    Crystal Dreams
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    Sephirot
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    Alchemist Lv 88
    I want something that can tank for me again but I guess fairies look to frail to really be taking hits... Although, they could play the mosquito Tinkerbell type tank, buzzing around the enemy to confuse and distract them while using agility in the air to avoid incoming attacks.
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  7. #97
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    Akyio Tayin
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    Zodiark
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    i'm a bit confused as to whether i need to macro my fairy or not. i have actually put both fairies into obey and have their abilities macroed like this: i just have fairy heal simply on hotbar. i wanted to pair with it adloq and physick separely but i decided that i will just put it nearby my adloq and physic icons so it takes less space and i can manually click it and also count the cooldown.
    for eos i have her defence buff and healing buff macroed in one icon, so two clicks will make them both happen. and i have rouse coupled with aoe heal as well in one button which without any /wait instantly casts aoe heal on me. its pretty amazing.

    with selene its horrible. all i want is to have little more control on her heal(embrace). but for the rest i can just keep her in sic mode and dont need full control over her. im more of a selene fan because of how she boosts dps.. i just wish SE made abilities possible to cast without putting pets in obey mode. all i want is more control on heal dont want to manually be counting cooldowns on buffs and reapplying them.
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  8. #98
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dijana View Post
    I haven't updated selene's stuff, and I havent really done any testing with that recently. To be honest, in current endgame you should probably be using eos anyway. In easier stuff (dungeons, HM primals) you dont really need eos so you might as well use selene for the little bit of extra dps. I imagine that as stats get higher as more and more new gear comes out, spell and skill speed will likely be more important so selene will see more use.
    That's pretty much word for word what I'm thinking. I kind of prefer a bit of extra safety to potentially shaving a few seconds or a minute off a fight anyway (a wipe costs much more time).

    But strangely enough, on those same places where the theorycrafting happens, there is quite a lot of Selene CJ'ing going on and calling Eos useless (I disagree, naturally!).
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  9. #99
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    Euphie Correl
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    I had a question I was hoping someone could answer. I know it says that the Fairy's stats are based on yours when summoned and don't get changed over time (IE swapping to Cleric Stance doesn't nerf their heals), but does the same rules apply to temp buffs you put on yourself when they are summoned? For example, if I pop an HQ'd X-Potion of Mind and then summon the fairy, will she maintain the +84 mind bonus from the potion as long as she is summoned? If so, does anyone know how much that increases their healing output and is it worth the hassle?
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  10. #100
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Correl View Post
    I had a question I was hoping someone could answer. I know it says that the Fairy's stats are based on yours when summoned and don't get changed over time (IE swapping to Cleric Stance doesn't nerf their heals), but does the same rules apply to temp buffs you put on yourself when they are summoned? For example, if I pop an HQ'd X-Potion of Mind and then summon the fairy, will she maintain the +84 mind bonus from the potion as long as she is summoned? If so, does anyone know how much that increases their healing output and is it worth the hassle?
    I think potion buffs are ignored all together. I can probably test when I get off work if no one has already.
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