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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Keep prices please SE, undercutting is part of a healthy economy anyone knows this.

    To the OP if you can't compete then you are obviously doing it wrong or being greedy.
    So you sit at the wards all day ready to undercut people who undercut you just so you can get your *** sold? Right, perhaps that's why you don't have a rank 50 yet. You're clearly playing the game right. After all the whole point of FFXIV is to sit by the market wards ready to "compete" with some dude who sits there undercutting whatever price you list your *** as.

    The problem isn't so much a random putting one or two items up he didn't want, but the people who can keep that listing restocked. Gathered items are a common one. I apologise for wanting to do more than sit by the wards all day to ensure I can sell my walnut and yew logs. Your gameplay must be very exciting.

    If people like you had your way NPCs would be selling every item for 1 gil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    So you sit at the wards all day ready to undercut people who undercut you just so you can get your *** sold? Right, perhaps that's why you don't have a rank 50 yet. You're clearly playing the game right. After all the whole point of FFXIV is to sit by the market wards ready to "compete" with some dude who sits there undercutting whatever price you list your *** as.

    The problem isn't so much a random putting one or two items up he didn't want, but the people who can keep that listing restocked. Gathered items are a common one. I apologise for wanting to do more than sit by the wards all day to ensure I can sell my walnut and yew logs. Your gameplay must be very exciting.

    If people like you had your way NPCs would be selling every item for 1 gil.
    Wow ummm, don't think you've thought this through very well?
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 05-23-2011 at 10:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post

    ...If people like you had your way NPCs would be selling every item for 1 gil.
    Slippery slope is slippery.
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  4. #14
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    Price competition is part of what keeps an economy going. Economy would be even worse than it is now if people could blindly put up prices (something ridiculous like 500,000gil) and have nothing to check it against if they didn't want to spend hours going through every retainer to check the prices.

    All items would lose a value determined by the playerbase if you had your way. Stop being greedy and play the market the way it's supposed to be played...which is by putting up a fair price compared to other retailers.
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    The economy is driven by other players and thats the way it should be. If a player is willing to sell an item and not make as much just to have it sell faster all the power to him. Players should not NEED to spend X ammount of money just so it's "fair". Plus you buying another players item and setting the price on the markets is actually a valid money making tactic where you can control the majority of items being sold.
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    I am adamantly against removing price tags in search results. -1 vote for this thread.
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  7. #17
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    Yeah, I'm against the OP's suggestion, too. Plus, if you remove the price listings, you can still get undercut, but you'll have to go through all retainers yourself to figure out whether you've been undercut. So it will cost both buyers and sellers more time.

    Also, it's probably worth mentioning that you say you're against undercutting, but you undercut, too. You shouldn't have any more right than anyone else to set the market price.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    So you sit at the wards all day ready to undercut people who undercut you just so you can get your *** sold? Right, perhaps that's why you don't have a rank 50 yet.

    I don't have a rank 50 because I quit back in November and only started again a couple weeks ago.

    I don't undercut anyone, I go to YG and use the average price as I'm sure many people do.
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 05-23-2011 at 10:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xenor View Post
    Undercutting is starting to become a big problem, as if the economy isn't bad enough already.

    You have people who put their *** up at the lowest price on the list and then sit there camping the wards all day undercutting anyone who puts their stuff back up at a lower price than them. They've got to have their *** sell first no matter what.

    This drives prices right down. I have a policy of undercutting the undercutter, whereby anyone who undercuts me is undercut back until a point where I'm better off buying their *** and putting my price back up to a reasonable level and profiting off their crap too. But I don't have time to sit camping the wards all day to sell my *** during the ten minutes that they aren't spamming the search to under cut people.

    Whoever decided showing prices in the item search was a good idea is a fool if they didn't see this coming. XI's economy works fine without this. The system should show a price history not a price list. Something needs changing.
    You do know that this is how an actual market works? It is the only thing keeping price fixing from happening. It keeps things at actual value rather than whatever the seller wants to charge.
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    Last edited by Melodicya; 05-23-2011 at 10:59 PM.

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    No thanks. Keep the prices displayed.
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